From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Mar 16 10:57:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA23998 for hackers-outgoing; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 10:57:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA23993 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 10:57:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA17601; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 11:52:00 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199603161852.LAA17601@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Win32 (was:Re: Go SCSI! Big improvement...) To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty Jr.) Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 11:52:00 -0700 (MST) Cc: narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199603161831.KAA03892@rah.star-gate.com> from "Amancio Hasty Jr." at Mar 16, 96 10:31:45 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Two things that can can attract more individuals to FreeBSD: [ ... ] > o fast internent connection: isdn, adsl, etc... > isdn is specially very attractive since it is becoming very popular. > It is very hard for me to think of the days in which I was connected > to the Net via a 9600 or 14.4baud modem. It sort of reminds me of the > 300baud days 8) > > For many moons now, hackers at least in the US have avoided even > thinking about writing ISDN support for FreeBSD. That my friends > is a shame. It's a matter of principle. ISDN is evil, plus it priced out of the range of usability in my area anyway. ISDN is evil because it is technologically possible to charge connect time charges; if something can be done, it eventually will. Even PacBell, the ISDN king, has a reservation clause in their Tarrif that lets them reduce the number of "free-hours-before-time-charges", so if you think you are safe, think again. It would cost me in excess of $3000 to write an ISDN driver because of the need to have two cards and two lines (since there is no one else to talk ISDN to in this very expensive area except very expensive ISPs), not to mention programming documentation. Many people in the US are in the same boat (or worse). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.