From owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org Mon Dec 17 15:26:56 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9A071342FC7 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2018 15:26:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marquis@roble.com) Received: from mx5.roble.com (mx5.roble.com [209.237.23.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx5.roble.com", Issuer "mx5.roble.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 07CE872B34 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2018 15:26:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marquis@roble.com) Received: from roble.com (roble.com [209.237.23.50]) by mx5.roble.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DD788514D for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2018 07:26:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 07:26:54 -0800 (PST) From: Roger Marquis To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SQLite vulnerability In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 07CE872B34 X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.61 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.87)[0.871,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-security@freebsd.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.92)[0.916,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx4.roble.com]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.95)[0.950,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[roble.com]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:17403, ipnet:209.237.0.0/18, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.08)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 15:26:56 -0000 Robert Simmons acerbically replied: > Since you may not read that essay on open source software, here is the > salient point for you: > - For users: remember when filing an issue, opening a pull request or > making a comment on a project to be grateful that people spend their free > time to build software you get to use for free. Keep your frustrations and The problem with Robert Simmons' line of reasoning: a) keeping vulxml up to date is a fixable problem, and b) ignoring the critical role of FreeBSD's security teams will only result in FreeBSD boxes being hacked and end-users migrating to Linux. Considering the lack of technical or logical arguments being made against, for example, larger security teams or security team funding (after all, we're only talking about timely entries in the vulnerability database) it would not be unreasonable to conclude that opposition viewpoints are simply Linux advocates. Roger Marquis