From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 9 02:58:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA67C37B401; Fri, 9 May 2003 02:58:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C28243FE3; Fri, 9 May 2003 02:58:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@pobrecita.freebsd.ru) Received: from pobrecita.freebsd.ru (ache@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nagual.pp.ru (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h499wt1Z019981; Fri, 9 May 2003 13:58:55 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache@pobrecita.freebsd.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by pobrecita.freebsd.ru (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h499wtKK019980; Fri, 9 May 2003 13:58:55 +0400 (MSD) Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 13:58:54 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Message-ID: <20030509095854.GA19899@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20030501182820.GA53641@madman.celabo.org> <20030503201409.GA41554@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030505175428.GA19275@madman.celabo.org> <20030506170919.GD36798@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030506175557.GE79167@madman.celabo.org> <20030508161223.GL1869@survey.codeburst.net> <1052433233.619.27.camel@cf.freebsd-services.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: "Jacques A. Vidrine" cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org cc: David O'Brien Subject: Re: `Hiding' libc symbols X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 09:59:00 -0000 On Fri, May 09, 2003 at 11:27:52 +0200, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > Our role is not to be the professor or teacher of the open source > world, but rather to be the research technician who builds the tools > that professors use in their research and teaching. As such, we > should be aware that the professor is not solely interested in > academically correct tools but also in tools that get the work done a > little faster and a little cheaper, even if that means cutting corners > or making concessions, so he can publish that paper and get that > grant. Please don't say "our" when you mean yourself only. FreeBSD is large community with very different members. Speaking of me, for example, I never get any money working on FreeBSD (excepting one time small payment for early sysinstall), so my goal is to build ideal world in that area as much as it possible and convenient for me.