From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 16 21:44:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5681B1065677 for ; Wed, 16 May 2012 21:44:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller23@insightbb.com) Received: from mail.insightbb.com (smtp2.insight.synacor.com [208.47.185.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C0348FC0A for ; Wed, 16 May 2012 21:44:07 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=rkgxjMBYhgowM3sfH/RQsg+jECNF8WDRFC1Y2qIyHaM= c=1 sm=0 a=LG3yoKeVwxgA:10 a=jLN7EqiLvroA:10 a=MJqbyNkXAAAA:8 a=-l8puTzKIuh6iKCaa08A:9 a=8I2Wgc3K0f5_KlROYPoA:7 a=nmC91KWBhlNMp-H0:21 a=eEm4QFCvf5C5ZpgU:21 a=Q/oqmR4JO1zR3vNQamCQeQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.insight.synacor.com smtp.mail=mueller23@insightbb.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp01.insight.synacor.com header.from=mueller23@insightbb.com; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (smtp01.insight.synacor.com: transitional domain insightbb.com does not designate 74.134.26.53 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.134.26.53] ([74.134.26.53:37091] helo=localhost) by mail.insightbb.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTP id C6/6A-21955-6AF14BF4; Wed, 16 May 2012 17:44:07 -0400 Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 17:44:06 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10 prognostication... X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 21:44:08 -0000 Umm, it's about as factual as The Onion, except not as funny. FreeBSD never had to "jettison two thirds of its code base and start from scratch". Apple is not involved in FreeBSD development. No Mac OS X or Darwin version "includes" FreeBSD. FreeBSD and Mac OS X will never merge. FreeBSD was never acquired by WinDriver Systems or by anyone else, although a company named WindRiver Systems (makers of the embedded operating system VxWorks, not of Windows video drivers) did at one point acquire BSDI, which had previously acquired Walnut Creek CD-ROM, which was heavily involved in the early history of both FreeBSD and Slackware Linux. The remains of Walnut Creek CD-ROM and BSDI are now known as FreeBSD Mall and iXsystems (of PC-BSD and FreeNAS fame). DES -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav - des@des.no I was a long-time subscriber to Slackware going back to Walnut Creek CDROM days (Slackware 96 to the best of my memory, but < 3.0). I believe FreeBSD Mall and Slackware (store.slackware.com) are connected. I had a difficult time terminating my Slackware subscription, customer service ignoring me, thought I was going to have to have my credit card number changed to jilt Slackware. I noticed the similarity in subscription arrangement between FreeBSD Mall and store.slackware.com. Slackware package system is geared to binary packages rather than building from source, and there is no tracking of dependencies. A package can be installed even if dependencies are missing, and that even happened in Slackware releases, as I found when I tried unsuccessfully to run gnumeric many releases ago, got the message of missing library. Seeing the better package managers in FreeBSD (ports), NetBSD (pkgsrc, and ported to other (quasi-)Unix OSes), and several Linux distributions is what made me not want to go further with Slackware. Multimedia files failing to play may have been due to lack of proper package management. Tom