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IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (3.72), ipnet: 66.163.184.0/21(1.17), asn: 36646(0.94), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[146.184.163.66.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[146.184.163.66.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2020 08:52:59 -0000 On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 00:49, Yuri Pankov wrote: > > On 18 Feb 2020, at 20:39, Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > > > > On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 3:51 PM Ed Maste wrote: > >> > >> On Tue, 18 Feb 2020 at 05:37, Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > >>> > >>> Maybe its a time to give OpenBSD a try.. > >> > >> I really don't understand this comment, either. Certainly give OpenBSD > >> a try and if it fits your needs better that's great. > >> > >> As far as I'm aware OpenBSD issues a release every six months and > >> supports the most recent two releases, so it seems odd to me to > >> complain about FreeBSD's ~1 year minor release support lifetime and 5 > >> year stable branch support lifetime in that context. > > > > Its more like "lets try if what I need works better over there". Not > > really the release timeline. > > > > The release timeline problem is more related with pushing untested > > features (and possible avalanche of solutions that introduce yet > > another complications that we observe right now). > > > > "The BSD Way", for me, was always about "it works solid or its not > > there". Like macOS / iOS. > > > > Unlike "The Linux Way" where things changes upside down from release > > to release and each one of them has its own universe of variants. Like > > Android. > > > > I am not sure if it is that important if there is a release in 6 month > > or 2 years. Not a problem at all. If in two years I get a 5 new > > features that work rock solid then it seems a better choice than > > getting new features every six months and have more problems on a > > production because of that. > > > > If I need to experiment there is a CURRENT branch. For well tested > > features I have STABLE. For rock solid "I bet my money on that" I have > > a RELEASE. Right? > > > > I did miss the 12.0 EoL kind of fix for DRM, sorry, it seems > > reasonable. I am just worried that 12.2-RELEASE will have the same > > problems, if not more new problems. > > It is something you can help with, run 12.2-STABLE on some spare equipment and report problems that affect *your* environment. To a beginner and uninitiated like me, the way FreeBSD labels "stable", "release", "releng" and "current" is, at the very least, confusing. -- Ottavio Caruso