From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 25 15:52:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CB1237B401 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2002 15:52:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F3D043E88 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2002 15:52:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([12.242.158.67]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01) with ESMTP id <2002112523523400100qrpame>; Mon, 25 Nov 2002 23:52:34 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gAPNqod8082188; Mon, 25 Nov 2002 15:52:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id gAPNqhYc082185; Mon, 25 Nov 2002 15:52:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: jojo set sender to swear@attbi.com using -f To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: Roman Neuhauser , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Find abandoned packages References: <000801c2915e$be8907c0$6400a8c0@windows> <9eel9eaber.l9e@localhost.localdomain> <20021125091339.GR77198@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> <20021125214747.GB667@gothmog.gr> From: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 25 Nov 2002 15:52:42 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20021125214747.GB667@gothmog.gr> Message-ID: Lines: 25 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Giorgos Keramidas writes: > It is also true though, that flawed mail clients can push down into > the connection to their outgoing SMTP server messages that do not have > proper headers to allow the server to parse and convert the 8-bit > characters correctly. This is often cause by either a) bugs in the > mail client software, or b) misconfigured clients. I thought SMTP mail servers didn't touch the body of messages. One mail client encodes stuff via MIME protocols to 7-bit data which it places in the body, servers pass it around (changing headers), and another client decodes the 7-bit body via MIME. You seem to imply that servers mess with the body. Why would it need to? Mind explaining? > Outlook is infamous for its habit of sending 8-bit characters > unencoded in MIME messages that lack proper Content-Type: headers. > The result is rather interesting to look upon, when the message passes > through multiple SMTP servers, with different settings each. I didn't realize that the other poster was referring to MIME mail (partially because the message I complained about didn't use MIME). Yes, I've seen really messed up MIME mail. But are you sure that the 8-bit data was put there by SMTP servers, or by the receiving client which has been confused by MSFT-errant headers or by the MSFT client that didn't properly 7-bit-encode it to begin with? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message