From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 24 16:39:10 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E7D66AD6; Tue, 24 Mar 2015 16:39:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-x22c.google.com (mail-ig0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD19514B; Tue, 24 Mar 2015 16:39:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by igcxg11 with SMTP id xg11so2457566igc.0; Tue, 24 Mar 2015 09:39:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=hi8pnwP+E9NouwOQ7VfOhnIKniyZXAfHati/05gcF2Y=; b=w413WuaYx5zqIZ86zXT21cEW9ohurug1BtD6Js6OHO/MmhkgaMyQ/G7HCrSqfoOkfL vlwQnZCbDvuu+QS76LMnBeMSQwB9jDtEl0QguyOJNYEGECHlowJGTk7M6MqpBst2Vlfi 0drzKChOYM4uYQiCgMfIjoNIts+liZtufvkdQAMc+oe+bU/Rs2613J3FFEmHtv0cjzEJ 6KtYsO1HhJtlATDLO42UrGHD7M/eSV4ajm0SHJ92cFVT2t2cBV6gf/8MXlc2m+ZGGMyb 0eQfx66iGK/jkiWgX6qHDPaqUhAFY4m5Un5lKW33Q1IaVSwjxaQQDiBS7G/MzgZ2n2Sf krjw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.12.150 with SMTP id 22mr7694507iom.71.1427215150085; Tue, 24 Mar 2015 09:39:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.107.132.85 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Mar 2015 09:39:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 16:39:09 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Zoned Commands ZBC/ZAC, Shingled SMR drives, ZFS From: Tom Evans To: Shehbaz Jaffer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: FreeBSD FS , grarpamp , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 16:39:11 -0000 On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Shehbaz Jaffer wrote: > Hi, > > I was wondering what cost advantage do SMR drive provide as compared to > normal CMR drive? > > 8TB SMR drive - $ 260 > 3TB CMR (Conventional Magnetic Recording drive) - $ 105 > Purchase price is not irrelevant, but the key benefits are increased capacity per disk, and reduced power usage per disk and (multiplied by the increase in capacity) per TB. In other words, they disks consume less power, you need fewer of them, maybe allowing you to run fewer servers. Of course, you also need a mainly read only workload. The RAID rebuild test from the linked review is *scary*. I wouldn't use these in ZFS raidz without plenty of disaster recovery testing - how long does it take to re-silver the pool when you lose a disk and what is the performance characteristics of the pool whilst it is doing so. Cheers Tom