From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 8 11:41:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F32B916A4CE for ; Sun, 8 Aug 2004 11:41:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7527943D2D for ; Sun, 8 Aug 2004 11:41:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) i78BbQuI035767 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 8 Aug 2004 12:37:26 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)id i78BbOa7035766; Sun, 8 Aug 2004 12:37:25 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2004 12:37:24 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: dave Message-ID: <20040808113724.GA35000@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , dave , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <000b01c47d35$ce50ff90$0200a8c0@satellite> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qDbXVdCdHGoSgWSk" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000b01c47d35$ce50ff90$0200a8c0@satellite> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Greylist: Message not sent from an IPv4 address, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.3 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [0.0.0.0]); Sun, 08 Aug 2004 12:37:26 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040705, clamav-milter version 0.74a on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: perl 5.8 on 5.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2004 11:41:31 -0000 --qDbXVdCdHGoSgWSk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 06:52:31AM -0400, dave wrote: > Is anyone using perl 5.8 on 5.2.1? I do a fresh install, cvsup my por= ts > and source, install a new world and kernel, get all that working fine, th= en > do the perl 5.8 install. This goes fine. I then do: > use.perl port > reboot and at the boot menu where i have to select an option 1 for > normal startup etc. my system freezes. Any clues? I think that blaming perl for the failure of your system to start up is probably not correct. Perl has nothing to do with the early stages of booting, and your system should certainly be able to get to at least single-user mode, and I'd be very surprised indeed if you could use perl to freeze the whole boot process unless you deliberately set out to do something like that. You might freeze a single process, but you can usually just hit Ctrl-C to kill it and carry on booting the rest of the system. You don't actually need to reboot after installing perl and running 'use.perl port' -- once you've done that all you need do is restart any long running perl processes (if any) and you're home and dry. Without much more detail, like how far through the boot process you can get and exactly what you see on the screen when the system freezes, it's going to be impossible to say for certain what the problem is. However, at a guess, for problems experienced during boot I'd be far more suspicious of things like ACPI or APIC. If something like that is the problem, you should be able to boot in 'safe mode', and then look into setting some sysctl(8)s from loader.conf to turn that functionality on or off during the default boot sequence. Search the FreeBSD mailing list archives for examples -- there's been plenty of discussion on this sort of topic on the freebsd-current list for example. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --qDbXVdCdHGoSgWSk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBFhB0iD657aJF7eIRApRpAJ9KdyWivjCLVCBuw7MhyADMxQYWBQCeMmba kCJbfnJhKTQPW5lOcDwSzYk= =9iaf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qDbXVdCdHGoSgWSk--