From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 8 10:07:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFA4016A4CE; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 10:07:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B8B43D1D; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 10:07:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i08I7eET085092; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 11:07:40 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 11:07:32 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <20040108.110732.20914341.imp@bsdimp.com> To: scottl@freebsd.org From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20040108033905.A32598@pooker.samsco.home> References: <20040108075811.GJ48603@over-yonder.net> <20040108101451.GK48603@over-yonder.net> <20040108033905.A32598@pooker.samsco.home> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: hackers@freebsd.org cc: fullermd@over-yonder.net Subject: Re: Discussion on the future of floppies in 5.x and 6.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 18:07:43 -0000 In message: <20040108033905.A32598@pooker.samsco.home> Scott Long writes: : My offer for a 'floppy : maintainer' is quite sincere; I hope that someone takes an interest and : steps up to the challenge. I think people misunderstand Scott's call here. He's not saying that the project doesn't want to support floppies because they are floppies. It isn't a dislike of the technology. Scott is saying that they have become a burdon to the release engineering team. He's saying that he's looking for someone to volunteer to actively help care and feed for the floppies used in the installation process. This is a call for people who care about them to step forward and put some action behind their caring. The only way something stays working in FreeBSD is if enough developers care about it to monitor it constantly. There are many examples of formerly well supported items being less supported now because they impact fewer developers directly. This is one of them. We can all come up with better ideas on how to support these things. Ideas aren't the issue. Elbow grease and sweat are. Warner