From owner-freebsd-libh@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 07:05:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-libh@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ED7937B401 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 07:05:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from histidine.utmb.edu (histidine.utmb.edu [129.109.59.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 611BE43FBD for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 07:05:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bdodson@scms.utmb.EDU) Received: from histidine.utmb.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by histidine.utmb.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5KE4tjZ018501; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 09:04:55 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from bdodson@histidine.utmb.edu) Received: (from bdodson@localhost) by histidine.utmb.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5KE4qWc018498; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 09:04:52 -0500 (CDT) From: "M. L. Dodson" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16115.5252.652966.23693@histidine.utmb.edu> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 09:04:52 -0500 To: Paul Robinson In-Reply-To: <20030620095051.GQ20204@iconoplex.co.uk> References: <200306162015.06836.nakal@web.de> <20030616151024.0616e1e4.eaja@erols.com> <20030616191852.GA52694@ussenterprise.ufp.org> <20030618100125.GP20204@iconoplex.co.uk> <1055948691.92188.10.camel@beastie.freebsd.local> <20030618154012.GE533@xtanbul> <20030619095739.GC20204@iconoplex.co.uk> <20030619182612.GB1074@xtanbul> <20030620095051.GQ20204@iconoplex.co.uk> X-Mailer: VM 7.14 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid cc: freebsd-libh@freebsd.org cc: Samy Al Bahra Subject: Re: YAPIB (was: Drawing graphics on terminal) X-BeenThere: freebsd-libh@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: bdodson@scms.utmb.EDU List-Id: Dedicated to libh code development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 14:05:04 -0000 [-hackers trimmed.] Paul Robinson writes: > On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 02:26:13PM -0400, The Anarcat wrote: > > > It's right now to the point I wouldn't consider writing more code for > > libh, but I'd reuse the ideas in a smaller, plugin-based, swig-foobar > > rewrite. > > I went back and re-read the notes on the website about libh's design > yesterday, first time in a while. It has some good ideas. Definitely lots to > pick up on. > > > So yes, libh is kinda bad, for me at least. And it involves a lot of > > C++ magic I don't really like. > > *shudders*. I was sorting out my flat last night getting ready to move, and > I found my old undergrad copy of the second edition K&R book. I hugged it. > C++ is for girls. :-) > Sorry to unlurk and run, but I think a perusal of the history of the libh project will show that the main gui toolkit candidates, qt and tvision, were written in C++. I don't think it was any thing more complicated than that. Jordan can clarify if he wishes, but I've been lurking as a kind of libh "groupie" for a long time, and I can't remember any posting that said "We're going to do this in C++". Bud Dodson, who would like to see this project resurrected, but hopes it is not written in C++ with tcl as the scripting language, and who is not enough of a programmer to contribute directly. > > But, as always, if someone feels like picking the horse (wether it's > > alive or dead I'm never too sure), feel free! The code is there for > > anyone who dares to look. I've also put up a doxygen framework and > > there's a bit of design doc, so no, libh's still no so bad since so > > much people put so much time in it during its long existence. > > Cool. > > > I apologize again for being so brutal to this project which had so > > high hopes and also to all the people who worked on it. > > It's understandable. Think of it this way - at least the next-gen installer > is now likely to get a better name, whoever it is that writes it. :-) > > -- > Paul Robinson -- M. L. Dodson bdodson@scms.utmb.edu 409-772-2178 FAX: 409-772-1790