From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 12 22:27:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4134150 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 22:27:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gct7photography@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ee0-x22f.google.com (mail-ee0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4013:c00::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5BEFD23F4 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 22:27:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ee0-f47.google.com with SMTP id d49so2590673eek.6 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 15:27:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type; bh=1OUL5Wg74Aj4X+HVCWRlcS0qsp1gJ/GXX3sVZM8yDA8=; b=GFMH22msC3uSNZbS3lVAXSW/ESHoub+1bqM/Okd/JrBTqos98B3/Qq0G1CibTkVwfr 2eZAIEFSXinobxHZsR0184J9Y0FhCJHKyP7yNRwbhzwhao1saQjiIp8ssTn0Cs3Ueano v5mtqiIuVikguLcCHYsCs/F6t5pXOik1eLL/9RYEJp5B8YNMzw0k8TjfyHEf1LftCTyZ 9IezQOILt6v/g/FBwKVi9Sqka43TrzhheA1w4FSjGQ892MVq7Xb1VZkt6VnXZzcTZg6S /SW+bb1vBisIK3eJBnzwuh6BALLOapm1nRqC4BiTzomRsMuaeFdzQ+WTJXLb66mnGZJ8 Vptw== X-Received: by 10.15.43.13 with SMTP id w13mr41365736eev.37.1381616876769; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 15:27:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gnewsense.gmail.com (cpc20-maid5-2-0-cust191.basl.cable.virginmedia.com. [77.96.210.192]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id m54sm132701260eex.2.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 12 Oct 2013 15:27:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 23:28:40 +0100 From: gct7photography@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Do I really have to install 80 packages? Message-ID: <20131012232840.1f1f8455@gnewsense.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: References: <52587390.3070400@wingfoot.org> <20131012053156.10e1d6b8.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA256; boundary="Sig_/Nya5NONkynq8wYxWQzT8C2f"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 22:27:58 -0000 --Sig_/Nya5NONkynq8wYxWQzT8C2f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't know what others think, but what *I* really want is that the free software versions of Flash (gnash and klash, etc) work at least as well as versions of Adobe Flash do, or if versions of Adobe Flash are to be used, that it will be free and covered by the GPL. Its unlikely to happen unless we start a campaign among the Free Software users of the world to make Flash free software. Yes, I know HTML 5 is just around the corner, but we've seen a concerted effort already (in the European Parliament at least) to introduce DRM into HTML 5 and though it may make using Flash marginally easier, it would be a retrograde step if DRM is to be introduced. So what are we left with? Free software to replicate what Flash does (at least) that does not have the taint of proprietary software? Is that not an achievable goal? I can't code but would be willing to join a project with those achievable goals, but it hasn't appeared yet, so I don't seriously expect it will happen any time soon..... ++ Graham Todd --Sig_/Nya5NONkynq8wYxWQzT8C2f Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlJZzRgACgkQ3lv/TkjVsTLzNwD+PGP9Bxf9nrIg/BEQQfU79vQs HNdJXaaKozm8+xN6PlYA/R0vU8wDuzF2Yze8XUg5MKLUNxJ29JCGQ73gEDwz0vUT =Hn/R -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/Nya5NONkynq8wYxWQzT8C2f--