From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Dec 6 09:53:48 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AE70E9AEA0 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2017 09:53:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mat@FreeBSD.org) Received: from prod2.absolight.net (mx3.absolight.net [IPv6:2a01:678:2:100::25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "plouf.absolight.net", Issuer "CAcert Class 3 Root" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0299C6B259 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2017 09:53:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mat@FreeBSD.org) Received: from prod2.absolight.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prod2.absolight.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 599D2BDD31; Wed, 6 Dec 2017 10:53:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from atuin.in.mat.cc (atuin.in.mat.cc [79.143.241.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by prod2.absolight.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4B326BDD2D; Wed, 6 Dec 2017 10:53:46 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless) To: Baho Utot , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <7a9a2753-6460-a2bf-5156-5eab92a0b2f8@FreeBSD.org> <0a06d3dd-10a7-fd87-9348-f520f3dfc175@columbus.rr.com> From: Mathieu Arnold Organization: Absolight / The FreeBSD Foundation Message-ID: <72f02c32-f5d1-6c3c-f248-4548f04a7b0d@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2017 10:53:44 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0a06d3dd-10a7-fd87-9348-f520f3dfc175@columbus.rr.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BtqKfOwkmft3ILr3pf81jJlTi0U7lGTO6" X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2017 09:53:48 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --BtqKfOwkmft3ILr3pf81jJlTi0U7lGTO6 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Qm4otQ5gEQNT7PxJc1gOEOTLtsBHTwixq"; protected-headers="v1" From: Mathieu Arnold To: Baho Utot , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <72f02c32-f5d1-6c3c-f248-4548f04a7b0d@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless) References: <7a9a2753-6460-a2bf-5156-5eab92a0b2f8@FreeBSD.org> <0a06d3dd-10a7-fd87-9348-f520f3dfc175@columbus.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <0a06d3dd-10a7-fd87-9348-f520f3dfc175@columbus.rr.com> --Qm4otQ5gEQNT7PxJc1gOEOTLtsBHTwixq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: fr Le 05/12/2017 =C3=A0 23:25, Baho Utot a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0: > > > On 12/05/17 17:09, Mathieu Arnold wrote: >> Le 05/12/2017 =C3=A0 10:53, Aryeh Friedman a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0: >>> TL;DR; >>> Flavors 'ed up ports and there are no good ways/alternates >>> for how >>> to use the ports collection for normal everyday users/maintainers >> >> >> Thank you for supporting all the hard work and countless hours that so= >> many volunteers put in making the ports tree better. >> >> It really helps motivate all of us continue bringing the ports tree >> forward when we get emails with so much joy and positive attitude. >> >> > > Thank you for taking a perfectly good system and breaking it as well > as making it unusable, unstable.=C2=A0 You just don't know of all the > countless hours spent after running an update and taking a week to get > it working again. > > It really helps motivate all of us users to continue to have to fix > broken systems due to broken ports system and then be told how great > things are, brings us so much joy and keeps our attitude positive. For the users using binary packages, poudriere, or the ports tree directly nothing changed. For users of third party abandonware, well, they were warned that it was bound to happen at one point, and guess what, it happened. I don't really understand why you continue spending all this time complaining whereas switching to, say, poudriere, would have taken you about 5 minute= s. --=20 Mathieu Arnold --Qm4otQ5gEQNT7PxJc1gOEOTLtsBHTwixq-- --BtqKfOwkmft3ILr3pf81jJlTi0U7lGTO6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJaJ74pXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQzQUI2OTc4OUQyRUQxMjEwNjQ0MEJBNUIz QTQ1MTZGMzUxODNDRTQ4AAoJEDpFFvNRg85IUjQP+gJn2HozwKQbpW7JWhnrGZj2 jNMnBEro7E+xQE+xx7iAonBtCobNiH1lgpnqJNlgDGzsAXK7VD2synvMIFWKEyqE T6Qymhbam8QsXiJcm5650xd/mukGHGKnpWuMS22fNxAB3iHRAalEpZKB0Vr5pDGL WcGk5GGI66Seki8E1YXHDxCDMxNKdGWj+TlZXNZEAfecFzmyRKaSupLk/X74DYyj w2MUiVXHQpLerl2jzDq5CRrZMoBgUNafF5xbr0PxLOiTyU6hb+6Nbtkq9wvw3T+6 ewuC1xNFWL7ADCn1sRk8yU0aQ1woHurWISbioNwx5lszLaOW07bZvMyp9BwEcJcK BRj+pIH/oGsvuiW5AlAQNwOKVHi1nexxlGgk/vO6r7d9R6X2uHawlMhVB9UKE4Nc 7DEaYutoG3YpaOmHvgsuww1r7+fP9T52+E9l+Kh4KOpFIbtRJSXXHlycZyT0IUfN qkEChSCv2g1iLN05kmbaWJNfL1JrCYvf6vIbEGooBXs1Z27NS7CNhaCFfXTEIdMA NIaOQDaA+zdqpEoVXwHzbN6oDfk6sroUHvTEuPgqfJ4xszYnZnZ6sn53Jgx3eBIX Dbgm53IESlVVMqhmIfdiU17+9UlHSsmxSDCk30RSVc64MgADfpzdCXJMDcXZFcrw T9OSfnBGUj0wA0Iyn+Lv =s8jg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BtqKfOwkmft3ILr3pf81jJlTi0U7lGTO6--