From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 23:47:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5D5F16A47E for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:47:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elessar@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F28E43D66 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:47:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from elessar@bsdforen.de) Received: from loki.starkstrom.lan (p549CFD47.dip.t-dialin.net [84.156.253.71]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BF29424105 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 01:47:38 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 01:47:25 +0200 From: Joerg Pernfuss To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061017014725.6d48e8d1@loki.starkstrom.lan> In-Reply-To: References: <80f4f2b20610151556l18c5adcci4196ab107b6b9907@mail.gmail.com> <4533C553.3040609@schrodinger.com> <7.0.1.0.0.20061016140214.01938450@totaldiver.net> <4533D22B.2000405@u.washington.edu> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.2.3 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Sig_9j8ZuVNI74OT9QdVbfsMhaS; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:47:51 -0000 --Sig_9j8ZuVNI74OT9QdVbfsMhaS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:38:59 -0700 "William Tracy" wrote: > For the record, I really, really, like Debian (and now Ubuntu). I > understand that there are packages that allow the Debian packaging > system to run on top of the FreeBSD kernel, and I'll definitely have > try that out sometime. >=20 > Anyway, FreeBSD is great, and I'll keep playing with it. :-) Sounds like you think of that Debian GNU/kFreeBSD thing. While it may be a nice porting effort for the Debian team, and surely fits the Linux development model to take bit (a) from here, bit (b) from there, (c) from somewhere else, throw everything into autoconf and hope it works - this totally kills the entire point about using FreeBSD. I like the FreeBSD kernel. I really do. But by itself, it is nothing I either dream of or start drooling when someone mentions it. I think somewhere I read of "GNU userland with the known for its stability FreeBSD kernel" (can't remember exactly where). narf. NARF! The strong point of FreeBSD is that the entire OS is in one repo and is developed together. And that is were a lot of this stability comes from. That is why it works like it does. Ripping out the kernel and glueing it ontop of something else... no. Other things the FreeBSD kernel offers, like netgraph for example, to the best of my knowledge, they lack the userland tools to use that stuff to its full extent. Joerg =09 --=20 | /"\ ASCII ribbon | GnuPG Key ID | e86d b753 3deb e749 6c3a | | \ / campaign against | 0xbbcaad24 | 5706 1f7d 6cfd bbca ad24 | | X HTML in email | .the next sentence is true. | | / \ and news | .the previous sentence was a lie. | --Sig_9j8ZuVNI74OT9QdVbfsMhaS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFNBoNH31s/bvKrSQRAoQwAJ9477quRzqDayc+TgGdEgpH2F2BWgCfY2t0 zBIu+zadfj9S0oPUButLVJY= =G71+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_9j8ZuVNI74OT9QdVbfsMhaS--