From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Feb 3 15:58:47 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA21710 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 15:58:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp04.primenet.com (smtp04.primenet.com [206.165.6.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA21648 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 15:58:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert@usr08.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp04.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA01513; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 16:58:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr08.primenet.com(206.165.6.208) via SMTP by smtp04.primenet.com, id smtpd001432; Wed Feb 3 16:58:02 1999 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr08.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA10889; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 16:58:01 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199902032358.QAA10889@usr08.primenet.com> Subject: Re: ports/9864: make rblcheck use relay.orbs.org instead of dorkslayers.com To: billf@chc-chimes.com (Bill Fumerola) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 23:57:59 +0000 (GMT) Cc: jooji@webnology.com, Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, onemo@jps.net In-Reply-To: from "Bill Fumerola" at Feb 3, 99 10:58:59 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > As an aside, I've just now received an e-mail from Paul Vixie, in response > > to an earlier e-mail I sent to the MAPS team protesting the idea behind > > the DUL. Unfortunately, the gist of what he's sent me is that although he > > regrets it, he believes it's necessary to assume all dialup users are > > spammers. > > His statement sickens me. Bandwidth Prejudice -- On the next Jerry > Springer. Not at all. ISP's that provide dynamic IP instead of static IP just have to provide a relay server with a static IP for their customers. The only "prejudice" here is against non-accountable IP addresses. Really, Paul needs to not be running RBL, per se, but instead signing weekly certificates for mail servers that aren't in the database. If someone SPAMs, then they don't get their certificate signed. Alternately, you could put up your own server and answer dialup IP queries yourself, and forward all others to Paul's server. Of course, I'd never point any of my machines at your server, given that youd let in the UUNET and PSINet cretins who run open relays and refuse to do anything about them... I doubt you'd get many takers, in fact. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message