From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 7 19:16:07 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 01A8C96 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2015 19:16:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp2.bway.net (smtp2.v6.bway.net [IPv6:2607:d300:1::28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B508FCCF for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2015 19:16:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.3.2.41] (foon.sporktines.com [96.57.144.66]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: spork@bway.net) by smtp2.bway.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8AE369586F; Sat, 7 Feb 2015 14:15:55 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=bway.net; s=mail; t=1423336556; bh=CBNnpPgElOlzsFXcAhnMwrcw/XQSNjvcu/7Y/Q47Sds=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To; b=YrroaM3+UUO/rkGYWRjfy8f/NAcxk7Zps0TcWLB9DosiqTkUBtdaQobCtZqoOljO7 ouxUsl8O2Zwqj6odnDWvi7pAHzzdXym/KWpLh9lFJs7vqCIFaMjoYHFHKqdnqDlHQ5 nwvt98dlpefaNrVAEb59+qN++tkDaudE+avB3R7Y= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: push a few config files to dozen or so servers From: Charles Sprickman In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 14:15:54 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0B3C5275-47A3-400F-945D-E25EDB46A6C5@bway.net> References: <20150205130234.3fcbabfb@efreet.mimar.rs> <54D37932.7010808@madpilot.net> <20150205154743.GO88387@mail0.byshenk.net> <3552828A-536D-41AB-B56D-F47AA4164A79@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> <6CC9FCD8-EB12-4DD1-A76E-8F43C044340F@ultra-secure.de> <20150206223141.GA1637@holstein.holy.cow> To: Paul Mather X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Cc: Greg Byshenk , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Rainer Duffner , parv X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2015 19:16:07 -0000 On Feb 7, 2015, at 12:17 PM, Paul Mather = wrote: > On Feb 6, 2015, at 5:31 PM, parv wrote: >=20 >> in message <6CC9FCD8-EB12-4DD1-A76E-8F43C044340F@ultra-secure.de>, >> wrote Rainer Duffner thusly... >>>=20 >> ... >>> I???ve always wanted to try ansible, which looks like it has >>> decent support for FreeBSD. >>>=20 >>> Anybody got experience with that? >>=20 >> =46rom Dan L (not me) ... >>=20 >> http://dan.langille.org/2013/12/22/ansible-versus-salt/ >>=20 >> https://twitter.com/search?q=3Dfrom%3Adlangille%20ansible&src=3Dtypd >>=20 >>=20 >> - parv >=20 >=20 > One of the reasons I've been looking at Salt recently is because of = this post in December 2014 by Craig Rodrigues, who set up and maintains = the FreeBSD project's Jenkins cluster: >=20 > = https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-testing/2014-December/000693.h= tml >=20 > Going by that post, it seems that he is leaning towards using Salt to = manage the cluster. >=20 > My hope is that if jenkins.freebsd.org is using Salt for = infrastructure management then perhaps FreeBSD support might get a boost = in the Salt community. > I'm previously familiar with Puppet and am looking at Salt at the = moment. There are similar concepts between the two, e.g., pillars =3D = hiera; grains =3D facter; etc. Devops is a lovely thing, and I see the appeal, and it=92s nice there=92s = a community building all manner of software to assist in managing large = groups of servers. =20 But the trend of developers coming up with cute and/or clever names for = concepts, configuration items, and behaviors simply has to stop. It = serves no purpose but to be cute. One could even call it intentional = documentation obfuscation. It annoys me to no end. So what is in use for the jenkins cluster, anyone know? And any totally FreeBSD-centric HOWTOs on either ansible or salt? Charles > I haven't looked at Ansible very closely, but it seems that Salt also = covers the same ground in its strong focus on orchestration. >=20 > I think all these systems are very good in their own right, but in the = end community support for your preferred OS is paramount. I'm hoping = that FreeBSD looking at using Salt for the Jenkins cluster might boost = FreeBSD support in the Salt community. >=20 > Cheers, >=20 > Paul. >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"