From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Apr 4 12: 3:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E933537B41C for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2002 12:03:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish ([10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g34K3Vr71019; Thu, 4 Apr 2002 22:03:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <016a01c1dc13$cbbb1790$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Benjamin Krueger" Cc: References: <1AFD7E6F-47EB-11D6-BF98-003065D5E9A4@infospace.com> <20020404113201.C2470@rain.macguire.net> Subject: Re: Anti-Unix Site Runs Unix Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 22:03:28 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Benjamin writes: > They can't get paid that badly either, a > few folks I'm friends with host some kickass > parties from their 1400 square foot apartment > in downtown seattle. Those are stock options, not salary. Microsoft has historically been slightly _below_ the norm for salaries in the industry, but the prestige of the company and very high-flying stock options persuaded people to hire on and stay. Now that MSFT stock isn't really worth anything any more, the stock-option carrot is gone, and Microsoft has had to raise salaries. I still don't believe they are paying much better than anyone else, however. There is a lot of company loyalty, though, and the working environment is very pleasant in many ways, particularly for workaholics. > Microsoft seems very much to be a brute force > code factory, churning code internally, and > selling the end product to customers when > another person from some far-off part of the > company says go. That's how you make the money. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message