From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 14 7: 9: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from axel.truedestiny.net (a185066.upc-a.chello.nl [62.163.185.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E71737B404 for ; Tue, 14 May 2002 07:08:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by axel.truedestiny.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1B50E49AB2; Tue, 14 May 2002 16:08:54 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 16:08:54 +0200 From: Axel Scheepers To: martin Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: economic low power computers Message-ID: <20020514160853.B9170@mars.thuis> Reply-To: Axel Scheepers References: <20020514134716.60873.qmail@web21503.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020514134716.60873.qmail@web21503.mail.yahoo.com>; from mymarrandy@yahoo.com on Tue, May 14, 2002 at 06:47:16AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Martin, On Tue, May 14, 2002 at 06:47:16AM -0700, martin wrote: > Hello. > > This may be 'off topic' so replies off-list would be appreciated. > > I`m looking for a low power consumption computer at a reasonable price that > can handle (probably has them on board) Two NIC`s. It will be a > firewall/router/server. > > I have considered a notebook but am not sure that they can handle Two > pcmcia ethernet cards simultaneously. (Although with USB and USB NIC's, > this might work.) 2 pcmcia network cards should work without any problem, but keep in mind that you don't use these newer Xircom cards, they block the other entry. > > Some of the really low powered ones on a general search (20 Watts) come > back with a price in the $5-8,000 range. Well, there are many different solutions, like ARM and NetBSD for instance, although the price will be equal. :( > > I don`t need much more than 500MHz and less than $1,000 would be nice. > > Manufacturer and model number would be appreciated and a "we use this on and it only draws xx watts and works great", would be a bonus. > I use an old IBM PS/2 system as a router/firewall, it runs FreeBSD 4.5 and has the followin specs: Intel 486 33Mhz 16MB EDO mem 408MB Seagate I use ipfilter/ipnat and the box never reaches full load, pumping about 350MB-1GB a day. (Home use ;) Total costs for the box: $0,- :-0 Just try some second hand stores etc. Sometimes they'll be available in bundles (about 100) then the whole package shouldn't cost more then $250,- not including monitors. The older models don't need that much power, althouh I don't exactly know how much it needs. You might consider throwing out the hdd and make a bootable (picobsd) router/firewall floppy. It makes them more silent too. Furthermore, the laptop with powermanagement could do the trick also, but they tend to get very hot when they're _really_ busy so that depends a bit on the workload. > > Regards... > > > > --------------------------------- > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience Ow, btw, did you have a look at those nice industrial boards? At www.micropower.nl you can see examples of them. Low power, super small. I used one inside a tft monitor as a x-terminal. Cost will be about $600 for a pentium based board with onboard VGA/Lan. Some models have 'DiskOnChip' which eliminates the need of a tftp server. Gr, -- Axel Scheepers UNIX System Administrator email: axel@axel.truedestiny.net a.scheepers@iae.nl http://axel.truedestiny.net/~axel ------------------------------------------ UNIX was half a billion (500000000) seconds old on Tue Nov 5 00:53:20 1985 GMT (measuring since the time(2) epoch). -- Andy Tannenbaum ------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message