From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Feb 10 21:22:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from ind.alcatel.com (postal.xylan.com [208.8.0.248]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D4AF4282 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 21:22:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhub.xylan.com (mailhub [198.206.181.70]) by ind.alcatel.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1 (ind.alcatel.com 3.0 [OUT])) with SMTP id VAA10218; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 21:18:57 -0800 (PST) X-Origination-Site: Received: from omni.xylan.com by mailhub.xylan.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 (mailhub 2.1 [HUB])) id VAA21556; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 21:18:56 -0800 Received: from softweyr.com (dyn5.utah.xylan.com [198.206.184.241]) by omni.xylan.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1 (Xylan engr [SPOOL])) with ESMTP id VAA12139; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 21:18:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <38A39D2F.F367E3DA@softweyr.com> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 22:25:03 -0700 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: My views on Eclipse/BSD References: <7654.950241961@zippy.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > > Since everyone seems to be jumping up and down on this, I thought I'd > just chime in with my two cents on the matter. > > None of that requires Lucent to be any more "open" than they currently > are with the licensing of Eclipse and we really ought to be thanking > them right now (instead of whining) for allowing us to take such an > open and thorough look at their design strategies. Thank you for an excellent summation, Jordan. More to the point, our license not only allows this but actively encourages it. If you're upset by this, perhaps some introspection is required. You may find that your gut-level reaction of "Hey, they took something and aren't giving back" is followed up by "Yeah, that's kind of the point," in which case you GET it. If not, you may be in the wrong project, we're thankful for your help so far, and wish you well. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC wes@softweyr.com http://softweyr.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message