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Date:      Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:29:55 -0800 (PST)
From:      John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>
To:        "Paul "@FreeBSD.ORG, "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Richards=FC?="@FreeBSD.ORG, " <paul@freebsd-services.co.uk>"@meow.osd.bsdi.com
Cc:        jkh@FreeBSD.org, j mckitrick <jcm@FreeBSD-uk.eu.org>, arch@FreeBSD.org, "Steve O'Hara-Smith" <steveo@eircom.net>, Jim Mock <mij@osdn.com>, Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net>, Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>, Chris Dillon <cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us>, Will Andrews <will@physics.purdue.edu>
Subject:   Re: More BETA evilness Re: BETA induced nervousness
Message-ID:  <XFMail.010316172955.jhb@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <3AB2BC97.6CCF6F6B@freebsd-services.co.uk>

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On 17-Mar-01 Paul "Richardsü wrote:
> Will Andrews wrote:
>> 
>> On Sat, Mar 17, 2001 at 01:12:20AM +0000, Paul Richardsü wrote:
>> > It doesn't seem like setting the OS version to beta gains us anything,
>> > we might as well do
>> 
>> Wrong.  You obviously never tried building ports before only to discover
>> that they break in strange ways because of stupid version checking configure
>> scripts or otherwise.  This was a real problem in the olden days.  We
>> still need to do this to catch other mistakes.
>> 
>> IMO we still need something, but it need not be called BETA, it can be
>> called PRERELEASE (which is what Kris suggested).
> 
> Or ports fixing happens after the -release tag is laid.

Umm, Paul, we usually release ports with the release you know.  Like, at the
same time.

> That seems more logical to me, finalise the OS then check all the ports
> work.

This is called a release candidate and a release cycle.  We do this work
_before_ the release goes out, not after.

> It would also be the case that if ports were more portable across
> FreeBSD versions this would be less of any issue.

No silly.  This isn't bsd.port.mk junk this is stupid configure scripts that
have hard-coded checks on the output of uname.

> Paul.

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