From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 6 00:39:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A986EE50; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 00:39:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pd0-x235.google.com (mail-pd0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6F18C1882; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 00:39:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pd0-f181.google.com with SMTP id p10so632pdj.26 for ; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 16:39:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=7xI1ySLJY05U/1P1NiUbMjo+FK8/VoFZw+VQIOfvVAM=; b=cIFoRfSVU2GVD097xVNQN58uLhgxZGWdqCzsOuQwjXekkKEtToTo+lA5R+xXg+evFE vogY1/J652EioGOCl9LEjeDUBcLgPtbRjX1E87kOHyy769P+o686njDARxB4Q9ulunGm tlH8gSv2m6pO6XEspndqcX3mcr/JY97oUpUsuH91ThYOyhk1J1EqxqxQWdTt1r5F/Fts DPJLhA8XtR8QfZ8WYRe//4hZEiiCCZnMoyTN92+9Jy7SqfgZP/uzmDS5rsX/fQ3jqsMo yetfDxWRCdPsYjBjtcVfsXxIFOx3oh1SZrZxN2X3Ds8eOXFl2TvlcnlCgPh3pwTzV0za zNhg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.164.136 with SMTP id yq8mr592877pab.67.1386290363935; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 16:39:23 -0800 (PST) Sender: kob6558@gmail.com Received: by 10.67.23.101 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 16:39:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <529E8C53.6020208@freebsd.org> <20131204060246.GV2951@home.opsec.eu> Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 16:39:23 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: -QtyFMNBKazBzqw1hiT1w32pxnc Message-ID: Subject: Re: BIND segway -> python -> first-class ports From: Kevin Oberman To: Tom Evans Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: Daniel Eischen , "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Stable" , Kurt Jaeger , Julian Elischer X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 00:39:24 -0000 On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Tom Evans wrote: > On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > Of course, the question of what needs to be a class 1 port may prove to > be > > the bikeshed to end all bikesheds! (I think we need Python, Perl, JPEG, > > PNG, GPG, BIND and bright yellow!) And we need a reasonable mechanism to > > update this list as the popularity of various tools does change. > > Woah, this is missing most of what Alfred was saying. There should be > no "class 1 ports", and if jpeg went in base, it should be because > base requires and uses it, not because it is useful to 3rd party > software in base. The base jpeg *would not* even be visible to > ports/3rd party software by default, only to base and things > especially configured to use base. > > You are correct. I did not understand Alfred's proposal correctly. Of course, I can see several issues with that, as well, but it' a lot more tractable than a set of "baseline" ports. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com