From owner-freebsd-mips@freebsd.org Thu Dec 13 01:04:51 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mips@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E63E132CB4C for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2018 01:04:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Received: from hz.grosbein.net (hz.grosbein.net [IPv6:2a01:4f8:d12:604::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "hz.grosbein.net", Issuer "hz.grosbein.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 444318A1B4 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2018 01:04:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Received: from eg.sd.rdtc.ru (eg.sd.rdtc.ru [IPv6:2a03:3100:c:13:0:0:0:5]) by hz.grosbein.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id wBD14QLB060911 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 13 Dec 2018 02:04:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) X-Envelope-From: eugen@grosbein.net X-Envelope-To: imp@bsdimp.com Received: from [10.58.0.4] ([10.58.0.4]) by eg.sd.rdtc.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id wBD14P54038412 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 13 Dec 2018 08:04:25 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Subject: Re: MIPS future... To: Warner Losh , "freebsd-mips@freebsd.org" References: From: Eugene Grosbein Message-ID: <8da9f5d2-e33e-0f55-7f30-3344ccf5f0a7@grosbein.net> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 08:04:17 +0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,LOCAL_FROM,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Report: * -2.3 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% * [score: 0.0000] * -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record * 2.6 LOCAL_FROM From my domains X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on hz.grosbein.net X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 444318A1B4 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=permerror (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of eugen@grosbein.net uses mechanism not recognized by this client) smtp.mailfrom=eugen@grosbein.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.38 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_INVALID(0.50)[greylisted]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[grosbein.net]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_PERMFAIL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.992,0]; IP_SCORE(-1.79)[ip: (-3.12), ipnet: 2a01:4f8::/29(-3.31), asn: 24940(-2.51), country: DE(-0.01)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:2a01:4f8::/29, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-mips@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to MIPS List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 01:04:51 -0000 13.12.2018 1:15, Warner Losh wrote: > And then there's the even larger question: how many people are still using > mips32? It looks like a fair number, maybe, but I have no idea for sure, so > if you do, please provide feedback on the platforms you are running FreeBSD > 11 or newer on. I have TP-Link TL-WDR4300 https://www.tp-link.com/en/products/details/TL-WDR4300.html that is MIPS32 74Kc AR9344 SOC with 8MB on-board flash and 128M RAM that successfully boots to multiuser mode using very old FreeBSD 11-CURRENT. I stopped trying it because its USB support was pretty unstable leading to random panics or just hangs and 8MB are not enough for my purposes without extra USB storage for packages and I could not even fit FreeBSD 12 base system to its internal flash due to siginficantly increased code bloat and ENOTIME to deal with troubles.