Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:58:59 -0400 (EDT) From: "Mike" <root@unixhideout.com> To: <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Allowing controlled relay with sendmail. Message-ID: <1317.192.168.1.10.1027979939.squirrel@email.unixhideout.com> In-Reply-To: <00b601c2373c$52264380$6400a8c0@wks1> References: <2177.192.168.1.10.1027969601.squirrel@email.unixhideout.com> <006501c23734$54479680$6400a8c0@wks1> <2810.192.168.1.10.1027972243.squirrel@email.unixhideout.com> <00b601c2373c$52264380$6400a8c0@wks1>
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I know there's a way to do this. I just found it on google. I run everything myself. (which is why things dont break, and when they do i only blame myself.) Wouldnt have it any other way. Im going to setup smtp auth. If you only store their email, and dont allow them to send email thru your server, your not a mail server in my eyes. Your a storage bin. I dont know, why setup half a mail server? Kinda takes the fun away no? Not to mention i have to explain to a few thousand people to set their clients up that way? What about the ones that are on crappy isps that dont let them use mail which is why they come to me in the first place. I might be wrong but i find it absurd to go through all the trouble of setting up mail and not letting them send email. You dont have a static ip but i do, and 4 domains to boot. hehe, I appreciate your advice but i have found other methods. And i dont understand this: "I do believe you will be fighting a losing battle against spam if you allow you SMTP server to accept connections from users who don't have fixed IP addresses themselves." Thats why i asked for allowing "controlled" relay with sendmail. How is that a spam security issue? smtp_auth will require a user and password before they send. Am i missing something? > You don't need users to able to send using your server in order for you > operate as a mail server on their behalf, you are simply storing the > mail for them until the collect it. > > All my domains are currently hosted by other companies, but none of the > provide me with an outgoing server. I accept this as I don't have a > fixed IP address so it would be very difficult (if not impossible) for > them to secure their SMTP server from spam. > > What I do however is have my incoming mail server set to the company > hosting my domain, but my Outgoing is set to whichever ISP I am > connected to at the time. > > This has also meant that before I got my own domain name I was able to > continue sending mail using addresses from previous ISP's even though I > was no longer connecting with them. > > I do believe you will be fighting a loosing battle against spam if you > allow you SMTP server to accept connections from users who don't have > fixed IP addresses themselves. > > I hope this helps to clarify my points for you. > > Regards > > Lee > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike" <root@unixhideout.com> > To: <lee@unassemble.co.uk> > Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 8:50 PM > Subject: Re: Allowing controlled relay with sendmail. > > >> How am i an email server if they cant send mail using my servers. I >> forgive you, you missed the point. By a loooongshot. lol. Thanks for >> the attempt though. I appreciate it. The users are all over the world. >> >> >> > Forgive me if I am missing the point, but are these users on your >> own network. I am guessing no? >> > >> > In which case why don't you simply get your users to only receive >> mail from your server and send using the outgoing server of their >> own ISP? >> > >> > Sorry if I am not understanding your network setup correctly. >> > >> > Regards >> > >> > Lee >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Mike" <root@unixhideout.com> >> > To: <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> >> > Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 8:06 PM >> > Subject: Allowing controlled relay with sendmail. >> > >> > >> >> Alrighty. I run free email for my website. I know how to allow just >> my domains in /etc/mail/access and stop spammers and open relay and >> all those losers. The problem is, i now have a flood of users and i >> cannot add them all to the access list. This isnt out of laziness >> as i could easily have the existing perl script that adds them >> automatically to the core os, look up their domain and add them to >> the access list. The problem is there ips change. I need something >> that says "as long as they provide their existing and correct user >> and password, they can use unixhideout to send mail." Someone >> posted about this before, but i had other things going on so i >> couldnt learn from it. I should have saved it, but i didnt. so in >> closing, sorry for remaking the wheel on this thread, and thanks >> for any help i recieve. 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