From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 18:45:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6463716A4D1 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 18:45:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web50808.mail.yahoo.com (web50808.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AAB3A43D46 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 18:45:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dereckhaskins@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 65562 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Jan 2005 18:45:21 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=BS/t9MVRPWkESHEBsPHsTIXVsb00Mm0p9/ZzWfuIjPTWOnRC3IUZF0ypQd+EBdMNpLcWkvnfGXPiHCHHVcTHUdKcW362nbme1BaqkI0Osg6zyohZwk5TsnrQ2SJ0YrbjumjKWZqoP1h+8KGAc0Nw48fdm7RC/hNmYGqUMidExlY= ; Message-ID: <20050128184521.65560.qmail@web50808.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [66.65.216.138] by web50808.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 10:45:21 PST Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 10:45:21 -0800 (PST) From: dereck To: Xian , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200501281821.03796.ian@codepad.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Is windows a virus X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 18:45:22 -0000 No, no! You haven't offended. I liked it much! No need to be careful. It is the "BSD-chat" after all. :-) Dereck --- Xian wrote: > I hope I haven't annoyed anyone, sorry if I have. > I'll be sensitive in > future. > Thanks. > > On Friday 28 January 2005 17:06, dereck wrote: > > I know that this is meant to be humorous, and I > like > > this type of humor. So - this made me smile and I > > thank you. > > > > But you should be aware that historically many > > computer professionals considered *NIX to be a > virus. > > In terms of OS history *NIX has big problems, and > its > > history is very checkered. I use it, because it > is > > the most complete and widely available OS. But I > find > > it hardly "good," either theoretically or > practically. > > I have a love/hate relationship with it, because > the > > constant re-implementation of *NIX takes a lot of > > human years away from what should be a > _re-evaluation_ > > of the whole *NIX project. (Yes, beginning with > the > > use of C and its variants as the base language.) > > > > The spread of *NIX and its many copycats is > definitely > > NOT a win-win for the computing industry as a > whole. > > There is even a downloadable book on the early > years > > of *NIX, which tells the whole sordid story (in > user > > emails) of why *NIX has historically sucked. I > love > > BSD and I hate it. It is the "best" of what is > > available. Would that we could do better! > > > > Enjoy the link below! Note that almost none of > the > > fundamental problems are fixable - they are > products > > of the original design. And Dennis Ritchie's > > introduction is worth the price of the original! > The > > man can turn a phrase. > > > > http://web.mit.edu/~simsong/www/ugh.pdf > > > > Dereck > > > > BTW: I still lean toward Windows as virus :-). > It's > > definition of how user interface _should_ look is > a > > scab on the industry. BAH! > > > > --- Xian wrote: > > > Is Windows a Virus? > > > > > > No, Windows is not a virus. Here's what viruses > do: > > > > > > 1.They replicate quickly - okay, Windows does > that. > > > > > > 2.Viruses use up valuable system resources, > slowing > > > down the system as they > > > do so - okay, Windows does that. > > > > > > 3.Viruses will, from time to time, trash your > hard > > > disk - okay, Windows does > > > that too. > > > > > > 4.Viruses are usually carried, unknown to the > user, > > > along with valuable > > > programs and systems. - Sigh.. Windows does > that, > > > too. > > > > > > 5.Viruses will occasionally make the user > suspect > > > their system is too slow > > > (see 2) and the user will buy new hardware. - > Yup, > > > Windows does that, too. > > > > > > Until now it seems Windows is a virus but there > are > > > fundamental differences: > > > Viruses are well supported by their authors, are > > > running on most systems, > > > their program code is fast, compact and > efficient > > > and they tend to become > > > more sophisticated as they mature. > > > > > > So Windows is not a virus. > > > > > > It's a bug. > > > > > > On top of that Windows cost money while viruses > are > > > free. > > > > > > -- > > > /Xian > > > > > > "The important thing is not to stop questioning. > > > Curiosity has its own reason > > > for existing." > > > Albert Einstein > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- > /Xian > > "The fear of death is the most unjustified of all > fears, for there's no risk > of accident for someone who's dead." > Albert Einstein > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >