From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 06:19:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EDB90752 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 06:19:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qc0-x22d.google.com (mail-qc0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c01::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A446E825 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 06:19:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qc0-f173.google.com with SMTP id x3so3676179qcv.18 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 23:19:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=4hHdKiUZMR8yQgL45C06/kKdvKAA0YK5plBoYmPnYWc=; b=JAZAopk5cK3rf9PfSm1HkMDSeAch5HabDNKbJS4JSgu2+vevbPwzwtOSU261H1BAu6 TgKvh7cl9R+I+V04i9KpA2wzrjCq0LQlSVEeRKvpFY0zxFTsplnZCPB1xUGLB/w3QWnD HPwdDoWlZe5QBuurDeP2HpFnkSWS+9JCtxlp4= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=4hHdKiUZMR8yQgL45C06/kKdvKAA0YK5plBoYmPnYWc=; b=gdpsbl14fbM00JpACb8cPVYxNOHlOgirBMJMIPPorUxNj2Pkez37/piIyZ5Q6Hj+it Ffh6DT5uWZGe926zezhexi/3CLBMwLGC0c2cipYbr3jNCmSlv/YyuaZZ9qOVIscgzWNN qm1g9OuvM1kegts8UQXPHEXpcvNtfkAVIwhyQdDBaDIAdvdkVsoaKnJ8FU4vnw6Rftef O1875srPy/Pm5oIcaddLcsuZt/oa5y60tgdXHAIAhtR5SllNsaCm+oQS8gsLjQaZOI8J YDEM1lHwuWLB3c2weFVd/WSYLCk/N4efbZLGCtiP/Auo8YgOYUu6uzxuWJtaehXUrU7/ 0q5A== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlgaCFY9iZhKpn0oec01qrqoTC/psYi2nD84lYFVDMKppTmQxaKwfwetsvvaT2JcZcmYFsO X-Received: by 10.229.53.133 with SMTP id m5mr23197891qcg.28.1414649992583; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 23:19:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.96.69.131 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 23:19:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20141025204536.GD19066@dft-labs.eu> <201410281321.31986.jhb@freebsd.org> <20141028213526.Horde.WmTRslgo-hNbim44HjeQAA6@webmail.df.eu> <20141028221413.GF26796@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <20141029205336.GA1303@medusa.sysfault.org> From: Eitan Adler Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 23:19:22 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Tracking enhancements/wishlist items (was "junior kernel tasks") To: Garrett Cooper Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Baptiste Daroussin , Mateusz Guzik , "bugmeister@freebsd.org" , FreeBSD Hackers , freebsd-current Current , Marcus von Appen X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 06:19:54 -0000 On 29 October 2014 16:00, Garrett Cooper wrote: > >> On Oct 29, 2014, at 13:53, Marcus von Appen wrote: > > ... > > If we are going to do that, the area however should be >> separate from typical "bugs", so people do not confuse wishes with bugs >> and vice versa. Also, to avoid long and misleading comment trails, we >> would need the ability to hide/remove errornous (bug-related) comments >> in the wishlist (a feature wished for independent of this, but a >> necessary prerequisite [probably coming soon]). >> >> Wishlist items thus should not belong to a currently existing product or >> component, but should be clearly classified in an own product and/or >> component category. >> >> Except from that, what else would be required and desired to have a >> suitable wishlist? The bug tracker right now features: >> >> - tags >> - keywords >> - links to internal bugs/items (dependencies and blockers) >> - links to external systems >> - links to svn commits and reviews >> - attachments >> - flags to request/confirm/deny things > > At $work we use Enhancement in the severity field to generally denote these kinds of items. However, we could always use wishlist in the Keywords field. > > All I ask for is a centralized place to track this or easy way to look this up instead of 10+ wiki pages and doc pages full of outdated/incorrect material. I don't object to an 'Enhancement' section of the bug tracker. This is far better than split trackers. Generally, I've found that using bug trackers for wishlist items leads to other discoverability problems, but if we manage to solve that, then it isn't terrible. -- Eitan Adler