From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 24 15:24:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 741011513E for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 15:24:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from yedi.iaf.nl (uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id AAA19995; Sat, 25 Sep 1999 00:07:55 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA03005; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 22:59:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wilko) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199909242059.WAA03005@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: On hub.freebsd.org refusing to talk to dialups In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19990924130644.00a84dd0@eyelab.msu.edu> from Gary Schrock at "Sep 24, 1999 1:10:56 pm" To: gary@eyelab.psy.msu.edu (Gary Schrock) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 22:59:37 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-pgp-info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As Gary Schrock wrote ... > At 03:00 AM 9/24/1999 -0700, you wrote: > >Another thing that ISP coulds start doing (we are in process with > >this now, but on a monitoring only basis, instead of a deny we > >just log them) is to block all outbound from AS tcp 25 setup packets. > > Hmm, maybe I'm interpreting this wrong (I hope so), but I interpret this as > saying that basically you'd only be able to mail things through your local > isp's mailhost. It means that if you use several different mail servers, > all mail would still have to go through the local isp's. Personally, I > would immediately unsubscribe to any isp that decided this was acceptable > behavior on their part. I use the mail server at work for all my outgoing > mail. Why? Because the machine is lightly loaded and I don't have to So, the mailserver at your workplace is an open relay? > worry about my mail getting lost in the depths of my isp's mail server for > a couple hours because their loads tend to run high. (Hell, I don't > generally even use the email account provided by the local isp because of > load issues, my work account is so much more reliable). I'd call this the ultimate reason to get another ISP. Not the relaying stuff. -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands - Powered by FreeBSD - |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte WWW : http://www.tcja.nl http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message