From owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org Wed Jul 24 17:29:27 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 667D0B2FDB for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 17:29:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luke@solentwholesale.com) Received: from mail-io1-xd2c.google.com (mail-io1-xd2c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2c]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D63A368533 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 17:29:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luke@solentwholesale.com) Received: by mail-io1-xd2c.google.com with SMTP id j6so16134897ioa.5 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 10:29:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=solentwholesale-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=5tXaqbJn7UZ2VUja3f/aMktL52h61sY6qX59VRDb4IM=; b=wEjtzlBiQvawaCrfXUS/HqH9OrcsNOLcMGN/p3VcMevZRM01/NGCe4u76jN1fNuhGb XjnSPFS4s3ZI7kh2r8PfmmLr50s6qVKyOnBJ+vdQ1RfmBIG68VGbPpT6qhsawmxoNnK5 BzbEMxCxBHoPQcBaHUjZTdGfeNpnguNh2nzMkFNWL5LZQhg94gHINcS8dwe8yUtrPNXd y9IzgHZlQLWgcX6Z6ydP7YxZgG8RcCSL5TNkqHXy5zVGHbg4hkbD1KoxlchK5zdB0gJI fWETfQHQ/X58z71vQRNJ2EnvpDcPyyl3obsrXT+Vf/USlFOrLZNRxwJL/JrV0aw0y/e0 +rGw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=5tXaqbJn7UZ2VUja3f/aMktL52h61sY6qX59VRDb4IM=; b=MwgSPlda+ukq8Qh6SvqRaeyH5SXJDWzKRupCgquJHvz8IBDV5CjlclnR0a/4QBPFa5 VbVff2Cp03WXCG7nJ6dVIop7XGOfVJrTT9LltghkMeb0DEiP0AUnVbV1AzAQA3UfK0l6 bm86LY8WRvJDBGnJ/iHF8a03DwhBfLtyZFwvkWLLbw3H7atMaiklq+xJ4sfSVxPb2Bop Tb0wqnHeV1GsFgXceLY1eX1Vnn6uh6RLI0pMEic4l3tOvkxKxaC8TDOY6zIUJTmee4PW vYU98LDoP1wjPvTGAwczqxUOX1PalPgX86F43CFYj4jeWH4kgYEv/63ypGD5CORtCFnx cl8w== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVU5zp/ce2ZZrVrpdK17XT/q+Hxsf4/8eRtBo4XjetnfCoPiAlL h2FFF60AkWC7uUG8iwjWmFB61DSr9fFyQZLG0vpMuQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqw0vdYg3wtn0g5t7ciclrInJZ1xIVzPokDOsR7I9bcSLlBmEvMOS9da5qr5zicsH7yBHMnb2OG8SN5pvOisi8o= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:87c6:: with SMTP id q6mr8184073ios.115.1563989364970; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 10:29:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Luke Crooks Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 18:29:12 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Old Stuff To: Robert Simmons Cc: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: D63A368533 X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=solentwholesale-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=wEjtzlBi; spf=softfail (mx1.freebsd.org: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2c is neither permitted nor denied by domain of luke@solentwholesale.com) smtp.mailfrom=luke@solentwholesale.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.31 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[solentwholesale-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.978,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-security@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[solentwholesale.com]; R_SPF_SOFTFAIL(0.00)[~all]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[solentwholesale-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[c.2.d.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[ASPMX3.GOOGLEMAIL.com,ALT2.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.com,ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.com,ALT1.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.com,ASPMX2.GOOGLEMAIL.com]; IP_SCORE(-2.03)[ip: (-4.56), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-3.09), asn: 15169(-2.43), country: US(-0.05)]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 17:29:27 -0000 Clearly you underestimate the technical debt for both hardware and software technologies, still very much in use today. Luke Crooks Solent Wholesale Carpets On Wed, 24 Jul 2019, 17:58 Robert Simmons, wrote: > I wonder if FreeBSD should drop support for 32bit? Clean out and remove all > of it. It should make the code base easier to maintain, cleaner, and safer. > > In this same vein, let's deprecate and remove things like telnet and ftp. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-security@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-security > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-security-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " >