From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 30 21:03:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA29520 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 21:03:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www2.shoppersnet.com (shoppersnet.com [204.156.152.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA29513 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 21:03:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from hlew@localhost) by www2.shoppersnet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA12099; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 21:06:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 21:06:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Howard Lew To: FreeBSD Mailing List cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, Tom Samplonius Subject: Re: Pentium II? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 30 Jul 1997, FreeBSD Mailing List wrote: > > > On Wed, 30 Jul 1997, Craig Johnston wrote: > > > > > Not buying into Intel's slot 1 ploy is a good enough reason not to run > > > > PII's. Slot 1 is not going to be around very long and I wouldn't count > > > > on not running into bugs in the relatively untested slot 1 chipset. > > > > If you use that arguement, you shouldn't by anything then! The PPro > > > > Um, no. There's this idea of relative quantities, you see? Slot 1 > > is going to be short-lived _compared_ to other solutions. How long > > has socket 7 been ticking along now? It's well known that slot 2 is > > coming right on the heels of slot 1. > > Just to make the point more muddled, the PII's and PPro's use THE EXACT > SAME CHIPSET! In fact, you can buy a SEC to ZIF SOCKET 8 converter. The > chipset is not or should not be the concern (97% of all P2's and Pro's > are using the Intel Natoma (440FX) chipset). > > > Why bother with the Intel "chipset of the week" game? Slot 1 systems > > don't offer anything you can't do better with the same cash with PPro and > > socket 7 systems. The only folks likely to benefit from slot 1 at > > all are likely to be Intel -- they'll make a bundle off upgrade-happy > > power-lusers who've been exposed to one too many Ziff-Davis magazines. > > With the same cash is important. P2 boards will be more expensive, along > with the chips. > > > > (socket 8?) is doomed too, as Intel will not be developing it further (a > > > 233mhz version would be nice). The Pentium MMX is going to max at 233, > > > before being put out to pasture. So, every option is "doomed"... > > ZIF architecture is being promoted heavily by AMD, Cyrix, etc. The new > Socket 7 motherboards we carry go up to 363MHz (66 x 5.5) and above > (83MHZ x 4.5). I expect ZIF-8 solutions to be available soon from > competitive vendors. > Anyone know what brands of motherboards with 5.5X jumpers are available now? I know FreeTech has one, but then it is a VX chipset one.