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On Fri, May 09, 2003 at 11:27:52AM +0200, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:
> 
> Our role is not to be the professor or teacher of the open source
> world, but rather to be the research technician who builds the tools
> that professors use in their research and teaching.  As such, we
> should be aware that the professor is not solely interested in
> academically correct tools but also in tools that get the work done a
> little faster and a little cheaper, even if that means cutting corners
> or making concessions, so he can publish that paper and get that
> grant.

The academic research community is a lot more rigourous than that. At
least it was when I was there, perhaps things have declined since I
left.

-- 
Paul Richards