From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 3 06:02:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56D7037B401 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 06:02:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout11.sul.t-online.com (mailout11.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A3E743FBD for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 06:02:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from der_julian@web.de) Received: from fwd10.aul.t-online.de by mailout11.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 19NBR8-0002Jb-00; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 15:02:46 +0200 Received: from jmmr.no-ip.com (G-ZktmZCQevnZblS6Qolghgoh42ZC+0Jf5i4zkjxABeC6Eo45x1NgV@[217.225.178.137]) by fmrl10.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 19NBQw-21hY8G0; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 15:02:34 +0200 Received: from jmmr.no-ip.com (blitz@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jmmr.no-ip.com (8.12.9/8.12.8) with SMTP id h53D2P4I040530 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 15:02:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from der_julian@web.de) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 15:02:25 +0200 From: "Julian St." To: current@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20030603150225.503e795c.der_julian@web.de> In-Reply-To: <3D9375F6-95A6-11D7-A28C-000393496BE8@lassitu.de> References: <20030603055718.GA4763@titan.klemm.apsfilter.org> <3D9375F6-95A6-11D7-A28C-000393496BE8@lassitu.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.10claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Seen: false X-ID: G-ZktmZCQevnZblS6Qolghgoh42ZC+0Jf5i4zkjxABeC6Eo45x1NgV@t-dialin.net Subject: Re: whats an UDMA ICRC error ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 13:02:48 -0000 On Tue, 3 Jun 2003 11:32:06 +0200 Stefan Bethke wrote: > Am Dienstag, 03.06.03, um 07:57 Uhr (Europe/Berlin) schrieb Andreas > Klemm: > > > ad2: UDMA ICRC error cmd=read fsbn 74689079 of 74689079-74689206 > > retrying > > ad2: UDMA ICRC error cmd=read fsbn 74689079 of 74689079-74689206 > > retrying > > > > What exactly does an UDMA ICRC error mean ? > > I think this is simply a read error. > > AFAIK an IDE disk doesn't have spare sectors or am I wrong ? > > How severe is this error ? What do you think ?? > > IDE disks have (hidden) spare sectors, and will transparently remap > sectors as long as they have spare ones left. > > If the drive reports errors ("hard error reading fsbn..."), then it > likely has run out of spare sectors, and probably will die soon. I have experienced the same problems with a VIA IDE controller using UDMA transfer mode with two perfectly healthy hard drives. Now I use a motherboard with SiS chipset and never had these problems again. Regards, Julian Stecklina -- Reboot America.