From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Jan 5 12:49:28 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2293537B401 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 12:49:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [63.229.157.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6753643ED8 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 12:49:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from mustang.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.org@lariat.org [63.229.157.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA21914; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 13:49:06 -0700 (MST) X-message-flag: Warning! Use of Microsoft Outlook renders your system susceptible to Internet worms. Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20030105134145.02935820@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 13:49:01 -0700 To: "Brett Glass" From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter. Cc: "Gary W. Swearingen" , "Mike Jeays" , chat@FreeBSD.ORG, "Terry Lambert" In-Reply-To: <20030105203245.E155819A01@www.fastmail.fm> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 01:32 PM 1/5/2003, Brett Glass wrote: >You can always implement a clean-room reverse engineered clone, no big >deal. It is a big deal -- in time, money, and especially documentation of the clean room process. >There's nothing Microsoft can do, except keep making subtle changes in >the CIFS protocol to break compatibility. FIWI, Samba can kiss my ass. If >your OS doesn't support NFS natively, it's not worth using. Even though NFS implements "security" via the strict and rigorous process of checking IP addresses (and we all know that IP addresses can NEVER be spoofed). ;-) Alas, in the real world, many people run Windows, which does not. The attorneys at this firm are not computer experts, and want a GUI with which they feel comfortable. That means Windows, or (for a few of them) MacOS. (Some of the MacOS users are balking at the MacOS X GUI, though, and are getting Dell machines running Windows XP. Out of the frying pan....) In any event, the minimum license fee to get Windows machines onto NFS is $120 a pop. I recommended NFS (with heavy firewalling), but the cost ruled it right out for this firm. It was either SAMBA or something else that they could get at no cost. >But because you're a professional programmer, like me, you can easily >hack a BSD lincensed SMB server in less than 30 minutes. If SAMBA were truly free, there'd be no need to do so. --Brett Glass To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message