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Date:      Wed, 22 Apr 2020 18:21:32 -0400
From:      Aryeh Friedman <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com>
To:        "Kevin P. Neal" <kpn@neutralgood.org>
Cc:        Robert Huff <roberthuff@rcn.com>, Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de>,  FreeBSD <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>, "@lbutlr" <kremels@kreme.com>
Subject:   Re: Wayland on FreeBSD
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On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 10:33 PM Kevin P. Neal <kpn@neutralgood.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 01:30:07PM -0400, Robert Huff wrote:
> >       Also: if I understand the conversation, Wayland works OK when
> > client and server are the same machine, but not over a network?
>
> I thought I read that Wayland considers access over the network to be a
> solved problem without having to build it into the lowest levels of the
> graphics stack. Remote Desktop, VNC, etc., all give network access. What
> you miss is intermingling of windows from several machines. But is that
> such a common use case that it should be designed for from the start?
>

> That was my memory, anyway. Do I remember correctly, anyone useful?
>

Unless I am wrong if I do:

xhosts +
sudo su - other user
setenv DISPLAY :0.0
xterm

The new xterm is using the network stack.   Since it is quiet common for
people to separate different types of usage into different accounts (ex. I
have one account for non-programming stuff and an other one for programming
and normally login into my non-programming account and sudo over to the
programming one to work on GUI apps).   Thus if it is not a solved problem
this is a major show stopper and as if obvious from the above command
sequence a remote desktop client (regardless of protocol) will not cut it.


> Oh, and is XWayland still a thing? Or the other way around?
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Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org



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