From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 1 21:02:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1D68106566B for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 21:02:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nox@jelal.kn-bremen.de) Received: from smtp.kn-bremen.de (gelbbaer.kn-bremen.de [78.46.108.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EE278FC12 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 21:02:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.kn-bremen.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id 6AB4F1E0011A; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 22:02:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from triton8.kn-bremen.de (noident@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by triton8.kn-bremen.de (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p01L17Rs052631; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 22:01:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nox@triton8.kn-bremen.de) Received: (from nox@localhost) by triton8.kn-bremen.de (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id p01L17EZ052630; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 22:01:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nox) From: Juergen Lock Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 22:01:07 +0100 To: Juergen Lock Message-ID: <20110101210107.GA52409@triton8.kn-bremen.de> References: <201012260042.oBQ0gPCn091412@triton8.kn-bremen.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201012260042.oBQ0gPCn091412@triton8.kn-bremen.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: grarpamp , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD support for modern TV tuners? X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2011 21:02:10 -0000 Small update: On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 01:42:25AM +0100, Juergen Lock wrote: > Hi! > > In article <4D161D9C.6030100@gmail.com> you write: > >Thanks for the response! :-) > > > > > >See below: > > > >On 12/25/2010 10:39 AM, grarpamp wrote: > >> Hope no one minds the slight change of subject line > >> as it really comes down to drivers. Then you can plop > >> MythTV, etc on top. > >> > >> If you know of more support / work on HD, please add it :) > >> > >> All the current Hauppauge US boards are here. No idea about > >> PAL, other than some chips include that as a bonus. > >> http://hauppauge.com/site/products/prods_hvr_internal.html > >> > >> No idea about other manufacturers. > >> > >> Here's the only FreeBSD CX88 drivers/projects I've found: > >> http://corona.homeunix.net/cx88wiki > >> > Yes that's in ports as: > > http://www.freshports.org/multimedia/cx88 > > (and afaik at least the dvb-s(2) hw some of those cards have still > isn't supported.) > > >> I've not yet found anyone in FreeBSD land working on the > >> HVR-2250 / SAA7164 / NXP NGene: > >> http://www.tridentmicro.com/producttree/tv/pc-tv/saa/saa7164/ > >> > >> There's this guy under Linux, don't know about FreeBSD for it: > >> http://pchdtv.com/ HD-5500 > >> > >> Here's some Linux drivers/projects to contact/port if need be: > >> http://kernellabs.com/hg > >> http://www.steventoth.net/blog/products/hvr-2250/ > >> > >> Some related FreeBSD items: > >> http://www.selasky.org/hans_petter/video4bsd/ > > That's webcamd, see below. > > >> http://video4bsd.sourceforge.net/ Fritz Katz, frtzkatz at yahoo > >> http://wiki.freebsd.org/HDTV > >> http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.1R/hardware.html > >> > >> Lastly, would a HVR-2250 as bounty help? > >> > > > >If the card is supported under FreeBSD then I would be much inclined to > >go for it! > > > > > >I mean does it have FM radio and DAB capabilities too?? > > > >I checked the site for it: > > > >http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_hvr2250.html > > > > > >It says it's got FM tuner but DAB?? Is that streamed over DVB-T?? As in > >for North America ATSC or UK would be FreeView? > > While you are looking for pci cards with native FreeBSD drivers > don't forget to also look at webcamd, > > http://www.freshports.org/multimedia/webcamd > > which should let you use many of those usb dvb (and atsc?) tuners > that are also supported on Linux since webcamd essentially runs > Linux usb v4l/dvb drivers on FreeBSD in userland: > > http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-C_USB_Devices > http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-S_USB_Devices > http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-S2_USB_Devices > http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-T_USB_Devices > http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATSC_USB_Devices > > (and there are also analog usb video devices that may work tho > those are probably less interesting nowadays: > > http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Video_via_USB > ) > > Another advantage of webcamd is it provides essentially the same > /dev/dvb/adapterX (resp. /dev/videoX for analog) interface as on > Linux so software from Linux can be used with less porting effort, > and indeed I have used at least the mplayer, kaffeine, and vlc ports > with webcamd and usb dvb tuners (and w_scan and szap-s2), and of > course :) also my vdr ports that I posted a Call for testing for > not too long ago: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-multimedia/2010-November/011392.html > > (and others have used mythtv too.) > > I'm in europe so I can't test atsc (and know little about it), but > at least theoretically what is supported of that in e.g. vdr (or > mythtv?) should work with webcamd too, here are two related threads > I found on the vdr list: > > http://linuxtv.org/pipermail/vdr/2010-October/023777.html > http://linuxtv.org/pipermail/vdr/2010-October/023793.html > > Tuners I have personally tested: > > - dvb-s2: PCTV 452e Sat HDTV Pro USB driven by: > > /usr/ports/multimedia/webcamd/work/webcamd-0.1.18/v4l-dvb/linux/drivers/media/dvb/dvb-usb/pctv452e.c > > Seems to work alright for me now, including for (fta) dvb-s2 hdtv. > (The same driver appears to also support TechnoTrend TT-connect > S2-3600 and TechnoTrend TT-connect S2-3650 CI so those have good > chances of working with webcamd too; note this driver is imported > from the Linux s2-liplianin dvb tree because it's still(?) not > in mainline Linux v4l-dvb.) > > - dvb-s2: TeVii S660 driven by: > Btw, I was told TerraTec Cinergy S2 USB seems to be the same or very similar hardware so probably will have similar issues. > /usr/ports/multimedia/webcamd/work/webcamd-0.1.18/v4l-dvb/linux/drivers/media/dvb/dvb-usb/dw2102.c > > Seems to be very picky wrt on which usb controllers it actually > works, (like it made even Linux' `lspci' Correction: `lsusb'. > hang on an onboard ATI > SB700 until I unplugged it again, and you can find reports on the > web of other users having problems too) - and even after I found > a pci usb card that it works on with Linux it still wouldn't do > anything useful on FreeBSD with webcamd. > > - dvb-t: MSI DIGIVOX Duo and LC-Power LC-USB-DVBT driven by: > > /usr/ports/multimedia/webcamd/work/webcamd-0.1.18/v4l-dvb/linux/drivers/media/dvb/dvb-usb/af9015.c > > (btw variations of this chipset seem to be in a lot of at least > the cheaper dvb-t tuners currently being sold here.) > > The MSI DIGIVOX Duo needs a workaround (patch) I described in this > posting: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-multimedia/2010-December/011509.html > > and even with that applied only one of its two tuners can actually > be used or I get stream corruptions. The LC-Power LC-USB-DVBT > is a single tuner device and works as is, but note there is/was > different older(?) hw sold under the same name that is not af9015(6) > but ec168 i.e. it would be driven by > > /usr/ports/multimedia/webcamd/work/webcamd-0.1.18/v4l-dvb/linux/drivers/media/dvb/dvb-usb/ec168.c > > which _probably_ will also work but I haven't tested it. (hdtv > also not tested as there is none broadcast via dvb-t here, but I > see no reason why that shouldn't work too where it's available.) > > And finally, some links are also here: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~nox/dvb/ > > HTH, > Juergen