From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Thu Jan 3 21:37:27 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C299514382C7 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 21:37:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from smtp-out-so.shaw.ca (smtp-out-so.shaw.ca [64.59.136.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8426D6A7DE for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 21:37:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from spqr.komquats.com ([70.67.125.17]) by shaw.ca with ESMTPA id fAfwgVOMdnBo4fAfygilbb; Thu, 03 Jan 2019 14:37:17 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=J8fUEzvS c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=VFtTW3WuZNDh6VkGe7fA3g==:117 a=VFtTW3WuZNDh6VkGe7fA3g==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=3JhidrIBZZsA:10 a=heTAvR70AAAA:8 a=YxBL1-UpAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=d5f_LoeZEGOWeCIKERQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=UrJ2pwYPfabwj1STkZPu:22 a=Ia-lj3WSrqcvXOmTRaiG:22 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (slippy [10.1.1.91]) by spqr.komquats.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 37F6C161E; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 13:37:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x03LbBWZ014700; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 13:37:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from slippy (cy@localhost) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id x03LbBmZ014697; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 13:37:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com) Message-Id: <201901032137.x03LbBmZ014697@slippy.cwsent.com> X-Authentication-Warning: slippy.cwsent.com: cy owned process doing -bs X-Mailer: exmh version 2.8.0 04/21/2012 with nmh-1.7.1 Reply-to: Cy Schubert From: Cy Schubert X-os: FreeBSD X-Sender: cy@cwsent.com X-URL: http://www.cschubert.com/ To: Wojciech Puchar cc: Cy Schubert , Eric McCorkle , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Speculative: Rust for base system components In-Reply-To: Message from Wojciech Puchar of "Thu, 03 Jan 2019 11:14:04 +0100." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2019 13:37:11 -0800 X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfPCDud2LeiMQ3uwPZcykK++LsCsBMwmhzNd2HtfuSGkEFke2c/ft33DowOCm/nQz7fJov/QNGUvDEdGBP8YhPnZhwls/Aq/6DkpBqywwVIwXHsRQAsAx q6g77Hrphbkii8MO4zHz3KWEq7P52aFq0GKhSNzpyLPbs2VHAQdOvNxXKdEaVVo9+9CK/Oihb+QcV0dwiKRILT80J9gvKElkQmJibxZAl80vfjsEbMYeLtzw 96Wh8gguLX0phn1q3+1Lvw== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 8426D6A7DE X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.47 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; IP_SCORE(-1.76)[ip: (-4.23), ipnet: 64.59.128.0/20(-2.49), asn: 6327(-1.99), country: CA(-0.09)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[spqr.komquats.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.997,0]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[17.125.67.70.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.11]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6327, ipnet:64.59.128.0/20, country:CA]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[137.136.59.64.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1] X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2019 21:37:28 -0000 In message , Wojciech Puchar wr ites: > > necessary bits with one pkg install command. > > > > In summary we should pair down base and use ports to our advantage. > > Unless the proposal is to add some feature written in rust that cannot > > live in ports or if the proposal is to rewrite FreeBSD into rust (which > > I vehemently disagree with), > > Why do you disagree?! Let others do it, or even reimplement it in java or > visual basic. > > But as a separate project. Exactly! Fork. If it's good and becomes generally adopted, import. -- Cheers, Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: http://www.FreeBSD.org The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few.