From owner-freebsd-current Sun Dec 9 17:20:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC68E37B417 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 17:20:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from peter3.wemm.org ([12.232.27.13]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20011210012008.LXVJ24045.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@peter3.wemm.org> for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 01:20:08 +0000 Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (overcee.wemm.org [10.0.0.3]) by peter3.wemm.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fBA1K8s32024 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 17:20:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E57C3810; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 17:20:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Mark Murray Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: *HEADS UP!* This means you! In-Reply-To: <200112092248.fB9MmjU34838@grimreaper.grondar.org> Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 17:20:08 -0800 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20011210012008.8E57C3810@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mark Murray wrote: > Hi > > Now that I have your attention, please listen up, this may have some > far-reaching consequences. > > We currently have 2 telnet sources in the src/ tree; src/crypto/telnet > and the "base" telnet spread around in (src/*/*telnet*/). > > The "base" telnet is a complete subset of src/crypto telnet, and as > a consequence of this, I want to remove the base telnet bits from > the src/ tree. (Just the source, not the build infrastructure). > > This will be accomplished by removing the "base" sources, and building > telnet without defining the AUTHENTICATION and ENCRYPTION macros. These > macros are currently used with unifdef to make (by hand) the "base" > telnet stuff). > > I'm not sure when I'll make the commit, but it will be soonish, with > due fanfare. > > Those of you who believe that you may be in trouble with your > government by having crypto in your posession (as opposed to using > it), please let me know ASAP! This will make src/crypto mandatory > if you want telnet(d). This will _not_ make crypto _use_ mandatory. I for one will miss it. I used libexec/telnetd extensively during ia64 bootstrap (and still use it) before we had the crypto stuff going. This was all built by hand, 'make world' still isn't an option there. I also use usr.bin/telnet on other systems where SRA is constantly getting in my face and annoying the !^@#%!@^#!# out of me. I really dont see that this has to be done this way. FreeBSD committers catch on to quirks in the tree pretty quickly. I would much rather that the unifdef step marked the generated files more prominantly so that we didn't have accidents. It would be a shame to complicate things when it just takes a bit of committer education. How about making the unifdef: targets whack on large "BEWARE! GENERATED FILE!" warnings all over the beginning and end of each of them instead? Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message