From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jan 29 16:59:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA05821 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 16:59:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05813 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 16:59:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.2/8.7.3) id LAA23779; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 11:29:18 +1030 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199701300059.LAA23779@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Kernel extensions, &c. &c. In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19970122145501.00691f78@jump.net> from Lee Crites at "Jan 22, 97 08:55:01 am" To: adonai@jump.net (Lee Crites) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 11:29:17 +1030 (CST) Cc: hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk (Mailbox overload!) Lee Crites stands accused of saying: > >>> Having been on the kernel extension writing end of things, I can appreciate >>> how complex it would be to configure a live, running kernel that can accept > >> aribrary extensions on the fly. However, making something that can > >> link/re-link on reboot wouldn't be as difficult. > > > >Are you admitting some experience and maybe offering to help? Wonderful! > > Well, I've tried to 'admit[] some experience and maybe offer[] to help' > twice before. This is the first time I have received a positive response to it. That's unhappy 8( > The first time (about sockets and such) seemed to have actually garnered > some quasi-offense. I was, in fact, somewhat surprised. After two decades > in the computer industry, including working as a consultant in many > different fields, this was the first time I felt snubbed at the offer of > free help. (While it is true that loading the os on a machine and joining > some lists doesn't make me a 'part' of FreeBSD, I did have some hopes at > kind of wedging my foot in the door, so to speak, by trying to help out in > areas I understood fairly well.) TBH, I don't recall this at all. I certainly don't think that it could be described as the "normal" state of affairs. > I wish you guys luck in trying to come to a good conclusion in this (and the > few other) debate going on. A 'good' conclusion, imo, is one where all > parties can come away feeling good with what is happening and where it is > going, and are happily working together towards the same goals. Thanks! Hopefully your mail problems have been resolved and you can share in the process; I for one would be happy to have your experience and perspective around, and I'm certain I wouldn't be alone. > Lee -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[