Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 14:57:56 GMT From: Abc Xyz <abc@ai1.alaska.net> To: gtodd@bellanet.org Cc: ports@freebsd.org, ak@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Port: vtwm-5.4.7_3 Message-ID: <201211011457.qA1EvuDB009624@ai1.alaska.net>
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Yes, it seems that the default is to enable all possible features, but my point is that it would be a little more intelligent if "minimalist type packages" be built minimally, since that is their intention, their functionality. Some software is clearly "minimalist", and "minimalist users" want it that way. I don't see the good reason to build minimalist type software with "all possible features enabled". I have a modem connection, so I can't download such big packages for fun, but I believe the maintainer of VTWM had rplay disabled by default, at least, I know it was that way at one time, and I know it was his intention for it to be disable by default, at least, at one time. Yes, maybe I can get the source and modify things and compile the port without the option, but - I can't imagine most VTWM users want "rplay" or silly sound effects when they are choosing VTWM for its minimalist design, and I don't see the intelligence of burdening them like that. OK, thanks for the reply. I just wanted to add a viewpoint that seems much more sensible to me, and user friendly. There are dozens of other window managers that have lots of glitter, VTWM users don't want that, or why else would they choose it? I am sure I am not alone in valuing all of your work for FreeBSD - thank you all very much. Chad > > Why is "rplay" being packaged with VTWM? > > VTWM is supposed to be a minimal no-frills > > window manager (I have used it for 15 years) > > and I very much dislike the added dependencies > > for things I don't care to use and violate the > > spirit of VTWM. I wrote the programmer that > > did this hack several years ago when he first > > did it, and he promised he would undo it. > > And now, I see it back again (still using 4.11, > > was thinking of upgrading to 9.1). > > > > Please keep VTWM *minimal*. If someone wants > > fancy things like "network sound", I am sure > > one of the more fancy window managers will do. > > If you build the port you can "make config" to set your resulting install > or pkg to have no sound. The default setting in the Makefile enables > sound.
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