From owner-cvs-all Wed Oct 4 0: 8:38 2000 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 932B737B502; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 00:08:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e9478Rf29652; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 00:08:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 00:08:27 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Nate Williams Cc: Kris Kennaway , Jordan Hubbard , Paul Richards , Christopher Masto , Warner Losh , Joseph Scott , Brian Somers , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: How long for -stable [ Re: cvs commit: src/usr.bin/finger finger.c ] Message-ID: <20001004000827.B27736@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <85378.970625261@winston.osd.bsdi.com> <20001003192158.A14805@freefall.freebsd.org> <200010040349.VAA27923@nomad.yogotech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <200010040349.VAA27923@nomad.yogotech.com>; from nate@yogotech.com on Tue, Oct 03, 2000 at 09:49:02PM -0600 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Nate Williams [001003 20:50] wrote: > > The idea of supporting 2.x fixes isn't fundamentally unsound either, > > it's just that no-one cares enough to do the work. > > For what it's worth, I've got a couple of backported kernel fixes on my > box (including at least one security fix) that are there because I am > stuck on 2.2 due to hardware issues, as well as the fact that it simply > 'works'. > > However, I didn't bother making the fix available because I felt it > might give people the wrong impression. Just because *I* am willing to > support a really old release such as FreeBSD 2, I still feel the users > should be 'encouraged' to use newer releases. By not making those fixes > available (which were in fact rather trivial to do), those folks who > aren't capable of fixing the bugs will be more likely to upgrade their > systems to a newer 'more supported' release. > > I think supporting older releases *really* needs to be done by a > commercial entity (or at least folks who have a commercial stake in > seeing it done), since the majority of developers are in it for the > development fun, and product support is all but fun. :( I think it's a bit selfish of you to keep these fixes to yourself, and it's the wrong attitude to have especially if you're confident about a fix, there's always people stuck with ancient releases in production and could use the help. thanks, -- -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] "I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message