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Date:      Sat, 27 Jan 2024 18:26:31 -0500
From:      Juan Manuel Palacios <jmpalacios@gmail.com>
To:        Lowell Gilbert <freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org>
Cc:        John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Moving /etc/rc.conf.local to /usr/local/etc/rc.conf
Message-ID:  <E317CB4B-F698-4E55-A88E-6CDA1558C793@gmail.com>
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> On Jan 27, 2024, at 6:01=E2=80=AFPM, Lowell Gilbert =
<freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org> wrote:
>=20
> Juan Manuel Palacios <jmpalacios@gmail.com> writes:
>=20
> For most people, it doesn't defeat that purpose. Keeping /etc the same
> on all your machines is something plenty of people want to do, but
> not putting anything into /etc/rc.conf is not by any means the only =
(or
> even the obvious) way to do that.

My use case here is automating the creation of a number of =
purpose-specific jails, and keeping all configurations to =
/usr/local/etc, which I mount into them, so as to simplify the =
provisioning, setup, and future migration processes as much as possible. =
If I have to modify /etc/rc.conf to get a fully functional jail, though, =
then the setup becomes a bit more complex, though admittedly in a far =
from insurmountable way.

With that in context, my original question about out-of-the-box support =
for /usr/local/etc/rc.conf came mostly out of confusion, as I can see =
the pattern of supporting /etc/foo & /usr/local/etc/foo in multiple =
places, e.g. pkg (as already referenced), but for rc(8) it=E2=80=99s =
/etc/foo & /etc/foo.local, and I couldn=E2=80=99t understand why, =
leading me to believe there was something I was either misunderstanding, =
or not finding in the documentation. Hence my initiative to submit a =
merge request to support /usr/local/etc/rc.conf out-of-the-box, even if =
only for consistency=E2=80=99s sake.

>=20
> It's quite common to have a shared /etc, but very uncommon to need =
that
> to be limited to what an unscripted install would put in out of the
> box. If you want this because you're applying a common template to
> install a lot of machines, there is a common approach of scripting the
> install to add the extra variable (or more) to /etc/rc.conf; they will
> be customized, but they will all be customized in the same automated
> way. You just change them all to have /usr/local/etc/rc.conf (your
> choice of filename) included in ${rc_conf_files}.

In my current scripting I point sysrc(8) to =
/usr/local/etc/rc.conf.d/$name for each service(8) customization I need. =
Customizing rc_conf_files in /etc/rc.conf and then using a single =
/usr/local/etc/rc.conf for all of my service(8) needs would also be a =
functional alternative, for sure.

>=20
> That said, I don't see any reason that /etc/defaults/rc.conf couldn't
> be modified in the official build to include a file in /usr/local into
> ${rc_conf_files} if said file exists. Make sure the filename isn't
> likely to conflict with anything other people have already used, but
> aside from that I don't see any downsides.

I=E2=80=99d think /usr/local/etc/rc.conf would by very far be the =
preferred choice for out-of-the-box support. When I first get a chance =
I=E2=80=99ll start a bit of a more formal inquiry into that.

>=20
> Be well.

Regards,




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