From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Oct 4 12:40:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx.wgate.com (mail.wgate.com [38.219.83.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B452037B405 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 12:40:16 -0700 (PDT) Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Received: From MAIL.TVOL.NET (10.1.1.4[10.1.1.4 port:3366]) by mx.wgate.comMail essentials (server 2.429) with SMTP id: <48899@mx.wgate.com>transfer for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 3:38:28 PM -0400 ;transfer smtpmailfrom X-MESINK_Inbound: 0 X-MESINK_MailForType: SMTP X-MESINK_SenderType: SMTP X-MESINK_Sender: msinz@wgate.com X-MESINK_MailFor: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from sinz.eng.tvol.net ([10.32.2.99]) by mail.tvol.net with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13)id 4BW3BPAM; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 15:38:38 -0400 Received: from wgate.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])by sinz.eng.tvol.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f94Jdms30919for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 15:39:49 -0400 (EDT)(envelope-from msinz@wgate.com) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 15:39:48 -0400 From: Michael Sinz Organization: WorldGate Communications Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en Subject: Re: ALT- (Was: how to make 'for' understand two words as asingleargumen) References: <200110022357.f92NvnS08486@thistle.bogs.org><7fffe3770386f507d1@[192.168.1.4]> <7ffffcf203a07007d1@[192.168.1.4]> <898df21204da4607d1@[192.168.1.4]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit x-receiver: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG x-sender: msinz@wgate.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <89efc3b204df3107d1@[192.168.1.4]> Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > Michael Sinz writes: > > BTW - How does your system represent a file with 0xA0 in it? An ls on > > FreeBSD 4.4-Stable seems to show it as: > > > > -rw-r--r-- 1 msinz msinz 0 Oct 3 12:00 foo?bar > > > > Interesting - not what I would have expected but I think "non-printables" > > are replaced by the "?" when ls runs. > > > > Even more interesting is this: > > > > -rw-r--r-- 1 msinz msinz 0 Oct 3 12:00 foo?bar > > -rw-r--r-- 1 msinz msinz 1 Oct 3 12:05 foo?bar > > > > This is only "interesting" (in the sense in which you seem to use the > word) to someone who has not read the ls(1) manual page, and does not > know of the -q and -B options... This was within the context of alt-space replacing spaces in file names. As things stand now, it is not even easily usable as the main tool used to list the files in a directory does not show it correctly. (As far as the non-printables, I agree that LS is supposed to do, but is non-breaking space really a non-printable?) -- Michael Sinz ---- Worldgate Communications ---- msinz@wgate.com A master's secrets are only as good as the master's ability to explain them to others. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message