From owner-freebsd-current Wed Feb 6 23:44: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from espresso.q9media.com (espresso.q9media.com [216.254.138.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F49937B41B; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 23:44:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mike@localhost) by espresso.q9media.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g177dwl19567; Thu, 7 Feb 2002 02:39:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 02:39:58 -0500 From: Mike Barcroft To: Nat Lanza Cc: Peter Wemm , Joe Kelsey , obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gcc3.x issues Message-ID: <20020207023958.A13664@espresso.q9media.com> References: <15457.56475.172650.789685@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us> <20020207031843.A6C153BAC@overcee.wemm.org> <20020206234628.R6496@espresso.q9media.com> <1013064852.797.5.camel@gunboat> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1013064852.797.5.camel@gunboat>; from nlanza@premodern.org on Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 01:54:12AM -0500 Organization: The FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nat Lanza writes: > You know, people might be less persistent about these "idiotic" > suggestions if they got treated with some civility and respect. From what I read, the participants in this thread were very civil and respectful. I don't think the original poster had given his suggestion much thought before bringing it up though. :( > It's a lot more meaningful and useful to receive an explanation, even a > brief one, about why your suggestion isn't good than it is to receive > personal abuse. If you simply abuse someone, they're just going to think > you're a jerk, not that their ideas are bad. I completely agree. I found David's explanations quite helpful in determining the legitimacy of the original suggestion. > More flies with honey, and all that. > > I've noticed a lot of nastiness in this thread, and it's really pretty > disappointing. Yes, you're all busy people. Yes, this is a volunteer > project. Yes, people are never satisfied with what others do for them > for free. That sucks, sure. But it doesn't make it okay to treat people > like crap for daring to disagree with you. I didn't notice much "nastiness", but I guess I wasn't really looking for it. I did notice that some people were wasting a developer's time when the project as a whole needs it much more. I'm talking, ofcourse, about the imminent GCC upgrade that David is working on. Best regards, Mike Barcroft To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message