From nobody Thu Apr 28 02:32:26 2022 X-Original-To: freebsd-arm@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BEC61AAFB30 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2022 02:32:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@www.zefox.net) Received: from www.zefox.net (www.zefox.net [50.1.20.27]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "www.zefox.com", Issuer "www.zefox.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Kpfm41zzNz3HLg for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2022 02:32:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@www.zefox.net) Received: from www.zefox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.zefox.net (8.16.1/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 23S2WRmv006867 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 27 Apr 2022 19:32:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fbsd@www.zefox.net) Received: (from fbsd@localhost) by www.zefox.net (8.16.1/8.15.2/Submit) id 23S2WRjI006859; Wed, 27 Apr 2022 19:32:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fbsd) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2022 19:32:26 -0700 From: bob prohaska To: Mark Millard Cc: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org, bob prohaska Subject: Re: Erratic ping behavior, was Re: Pi3 answers ssh only if outbound ping is running on -current Message-ID: <20220428023226.GA5666@www.zefox.net> References: <8F9A6C9A-69BF-4D42-9886-A3F08BCB2EA0@yahoo.com> <506CD1A7-3D34-4E1B-AEAA-A1A819C6CC73@yahoo.com> <20220216231826.GA54961@www.zefox.net> <64138E81-2415-4D4A-A31A-D901DC53EB01@yahoo.com> <8936EFD1-F1FD-48CF-9ED3-4D42595464DC@yahoo.com> <20220313193406.GA65568@www.zefox.net> <20220314010330.GA70447@www.zefox.net> <9FA3F874-2987-44A2-A987-F905E78CCA65@yahoo.com> List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to ARM processors List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arm List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-arm@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9FA3F874-2987-44A2-A987-F905E78CCA65@yahoo.com> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Kpfm41zzNz3HLg X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of fbsd@www.zefox.net has no SPF policy when checking 50.1.20.27) smtp.mailfrom=fbsd@www.zefox.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.10 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; WWW_DOT_DOMAIN(0.50)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[zefox.net]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-arm]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[yahoo.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7065, ipnet:50.1.16.0/20, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MID_RHS_WWW(0.50)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Status: O Content-Length: 1045 Lines: 33 On Sun, Mar 13, 2022 at 09:45:02PM -0700, Mark Millard wrote: > > A point of testing is to compare/contrast different contexts > instead of guessing about the alternatives. If the test > that I proposed showed the failure, it would disprove your > hypothesis --and it that happened it would be good to know. > You're correct, as usual.... I just tried booting the 13.1-RC4 candidate on my Pi3 from microSD. It exhibits the same strange "no response to inbound ping" as before. It does seem to set time successfully using ntp, and outbound ping works fine. Inbound ping from both the same (public) network and across a NAT link from my LAN work very poorly. The NAT'd link shows 92% packet loss, the direct link around 88% loss. The USB devices present are an FTDI232 and an ASMT usb-sata bridge, neither is in active use. Inbound ssh connections time out, even with outbound ping running and getting answers. Not even a password prompt. It's hard to believe I'm the only one seeing this...... Thanks for reading, bob prohaska