From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 27 18:12:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78C0A1065670 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:12:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f176.google.com (mail-qy0-f176.google.com [209.85.221.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CC888FC19 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:11:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk6 with SMTP id 6so255490qyk.3 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:11:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=uNulWjc4i5wdfRdA/62G0mocVtQbmLFCd4AE79InOrs=; b=Uy0BfxFSUB5+rgs13h+3AHMo81FTk++8e2BjaqpGURCnGfYhQJXSAsGd7yutlAbA5N 3q9TLp/oQhaTJkSfAhZ+uFxMH1V7sHoVtmlavwviA3bdHEDLTAOlRMfz1FGYatOsHOPA eK855N/FdfhMRe/krQ+p8Aqdl/+76iml7ryTE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id; b=ur5VHJfW2ugmDgtjVcwHlARgXzs/GHxWwwspv5l23hXaIh7Phm/qp2eWnRNQbpss2a jLEo0kRCSOKze2nuAGzEhgfcfI1ULZAeJ/EqME3t+A0GljMYuQLlu0edPHfiJ+q3nNkk s1OhqziyiVZh9lfbQpeYhaGIr7zVUJ+MIYC08= Received: by 10.224.117.12 with SMTP id o12mr8615533qaq.57.1256667119498; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:11:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.100? ([190.177.192.217]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 36sm81584yxh.31.2009.10.27.11.11.58 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:11:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Gonzalo Nemmi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:11:55 -0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <4AE5F897.3000103@rawbw.com> <200910270916.31033.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> In-Reply-To: <200910270916.31033.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200910271611.55864.gnemmi@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:12:00 -0000 On Tuesday 27 October 2009 5:16:30 am Jonathan McKeown wrote: > On Monday 26 October 2009 21:29:27 Yuri wrote: > > It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail. > > > > How many people actually use it? Very few. > > Why isn't it moved to ports? > > What is this anti-sendmail obsession people have? Hard to tell .. and, personaly I wouldn't so hastly conclude that this concerns "anti-sendmail obsession", are but it seems to be spreading as a disease ... Linux distributions where the first to get it out of their default install in favor of Postfix, and the other BSDs .. well NetBSD uses Postfix, DragonflyBSD is working on moving to DMA and OpenBSD is working steadily and hard on OpenSMTPD ... Maybe they can tell .. > Almost everyone I've ever spoken to about why they dislike sendmail > trots out a bunch of cliches based on sendmail 8.8. People, we're up > to sendmail 8.14 now. Get over it! > > Just as a matter of interest, if you want to rip sendmail out of the > base system, which MTA would you like to replace it with? Or are you > suggesting the system ship with no way to handle mail? No .. I think he is just asking "Why isn't it moved to ports?" and replaced by another mailer ... Best Regards Gonzalo Nemmi