From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 18 12:00:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5D17106564A for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 12:00:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from break19@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EFCE8FC08 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 12:00:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yhfs35 with SMTP id s35so1737353yhf.13 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 05:00:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EIiJzi2pqNm44nR15rLjHiSoeA54ZnyPZEillcyoHLg=; b=lQ+Qd1hbW7rb/MLxeNjbxQDby0wVS1p6h8zMxGicbXb0CYIOnEuRb4dBzu9/bEHfCu uANjDGZkmxHQlLuR0qIlJxFp1coMTKYBvZJWh3Q0vGxDBSIltOs0YA/jAAkxwe/QB4nn ZgAL6dIlCLDCsPZtbha65rpyfHLP+r1/Y61EWfea2TYfXz1d2k/O/FJs8reoXJec342F 3tKsZ4OO3Ck03ap/W40g2lOecAZ7eP/HidFqdJZdlP3wL9NbnKo08adxvxrdchCQXwdW 1wj2dk0I1s9gmTuBAY/Vx8ZNBDRfstLy/QV4yIFu90KUZtvCPeIMwacBovEhSNOyhJIN Ec0A== Received: by 10.236.193.105 with SMTP id j69mr513783yhn.21.1342612801723; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 05:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from AL-MB-MWS0001.mediacomcorp.com (173-17-217-144.client.mchsi.com. [173.17.217.144]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x7sm19419208ang.7.2012.07.18.04.59.58 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 18 Jul 2012 04:59:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 06:59:57 -0500 From: Chuck Burns To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20120718065957.d1c7f91a.break19@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <50067BF2.40907@FreeBSD.org> References: <50064FB2.3020409@entel.upc.edu> <50067BF2.40907@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.3 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i686-pc-mingw32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: MPSAFE VFS -- List of upcoming actions X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 12:00:02 -0000 On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 02:03:46 -0700 Doug Barton wrote: > On 07/17/2012 22:54, Gustau P=E9rez i Querol wrote: > > In fact filesystems not particulary specific and not tied our kernel > > would go to userspace; thinks like smbfs, nwfs, ntfs, ext2 o ext4 for > > example should be in userspace >=20 > A big -1 here. >=20 > The more native FS support we have the better off we are in terms of > both people migrating from other OS', and people who need to maintain > compatibility with other OS'. Personally I use both msdosfs and ext2fs > extensively for the latter purpose, and would not want to see either > removed. Agree with Doug. Fuse is generally much slower than native access, and has= higher CPU cost as well. My poor athlonxp 2k+ jumps to 100% CPU usage whe= n I copy files from either an ext4fuse or ntfs-3g filesystem to UFS. Pleas= e do not remove native access, and I would like to see even more native sup= port. --=20 Chuck Burns