From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 14 15:26:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68DEA10656C7; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:26:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rdivacky@vlk.vlakno.cz) Received: from vlakno.cz (77-93-215-190.static.masterinter.net [77.93.215.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A56A8FC0A; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:26:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rdivacky@vlk.vlakno.cz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vlakno.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DB429CB058; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:26:31 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at vlakno.cz Received: from vlakno.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (lev.vlakno.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 45oSMkq2AQ0H; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:26:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from vlk.vlakno.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vlakno.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE019CB05B; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:26:28 +0100 (CET) Received: (from rdivacky@localhost) by vlk.vlakno.cz (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id n0EFQS6q035778; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:26:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rdivacky) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:26:28 +0100 From: Roman Divacky To: Steve Kargl Message-ID: <20090114152628.GA35621@freebsd.org> References: <20090113044111.134EC1CC0B@ptavv.es.net> <20090113222023.GA51810@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> <496D1ED6.4090202@FreeBSD.org> <496DD37E.5010900@gmx.de> <58DAD35B6CCC476E89B9D02F51041E87@PegaPegII> <20090114134436.GA15158@freebsd.org> <20090114152524.GA23889@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090114152524.GA23889@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Christoph Mallon , Doug Barton , Pegasus Mc Cleaft , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Alternatives to gcc (was Re: gcc 4.3: when will it become standard compiler?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:26:51 -0000 On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 07:25:24AM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 02:44:36PM +0100, Roman Divacky wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 01:38:56PM -0000, Pegasus Mc Cleaft wrote: > > > >Doug Barton schrieb: > > > >>Pegasus Mc Cleaft wrote: > > > >>>At the moment you can already compile gcc 4.3 from the ports tree, > > > >>>however things like binutils only seems to exist in the ports as a cross > > > >>>compiling tool. How hard would it be to add binutils as a port and make > > > >>>the gcc 4.x ports dependent on it? This way you can install gcc 4.3 with > > > >>>the assembler and linker that play nice together during the build? At > > > >>>the moment, I have had to make binutils from a gnu downloaded source and > > > >>>then make gcc 4.3 with a silly make, IE: make AS=/usr/local/bin/as > > > >>>.......... > > > >> > > > >>I think this would be an excellent approach. I am not sure I agree > > > >>with the idea that we _must_ have a compiler toolchain in the base but > > > >>it should definitely be possible to "replace" the toolchain in the > > > >>base with one from ports with a minimum of hassle. > > > > > > I'm not sure I like the idea of not having _a_ compiler in the base. I'm > > > not really sure how that would work when you wanted to update and build the > > > sources. I suppose you would need to install a binary port of the compiler > > > (et. all) before you could build a more recent tool-chain. > > > > > > Perhapse another option.... > > > > > > If gcc 4.2 && buildtools 2.15 is the end of the road for what BSD is > > > > has anyone actually LOOKED? I think the binutils are still under gplv2 > > > > at least this is what their root COPYRIGHT file says > > > > http://sourceware.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/src/COPYING?cvsroot=src > > > > It's not true. > > http://sourceware.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/src/gas/?cvsroot=src > > See COPYING. so something is GPLv3 and something is still GPLv2.... too bad gas falls into the v3 category :(