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Date:      Sun, 17 Jun 2001 19:55:42 +0000 (GMT)
From:      "E.B. Dreger" <eddy+public+spam@noc.everquick.net>
To:        "Albert D. Cahalan" <acahalan@cs.uml.edu>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Article: Network performance by OS
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.20.0106171850200.14695-100000@www.everquick.net>
In-Reply-To: <200106162057.f5GKv4X11560@saturn.cs.uml.edu>

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> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 16:57:04 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Albert D. Cahalan <acahalan@cs.uml.edu>

> You mean they should just optimize for FreeBSD, or should they also
> use completion ports on Win2K, /dev/poll on Solaris, and RT signals
> on Linux? What is wrong with using the portable API on every OS?

If you want an all-out performance test, use what's available.

> is fine to use fancy FreeBSD features. Otherwise no, it isn't OK.
> FreeBSD shouldn't need nonportable hacks to keep up with Win2K
> and Linux.

Like mounting the volume async? :-P  What size swap partition did they
use?  How hard is it to compile a custom kernel?  What optimizations did
they use on the respective compilers?

> You're sounding like a Microsoftie, demanding that code be written

(Troll alert)

> to the latest OS-specific API to get decent performance.

The "decent" performance issue has been addressed.  For all-out
performance, accept filters and kqueues are not that new.

> > Not to mention that anyone using a kernel "out of the
> > box" needs to be larted.
> 
> If you run Google or Yahoo, sure. If the admin is really the guy
> hired to make web pages selling potted plants, no way.

And I suppose that routers must also coddle the "admin" using FP, because
it's too hard to filter bogons or configure netmasks by hand?  BGP should
be "plug and play", eh?

A certain amount of manual work is "too much" -- don't get me wrong.  But
there's a point where, if you want to be a "network admin", you simply
must know WTF you are doing.

If an "admin" is too dumb to at least start tuning a system, will they
know enough to asymmetrically encrypt sensitive info before storing it in
a database?  If not, I'm less than excited about buying from them.

Anybody who needs a wizard, singing mouse, or dancing teddy bear to bind
an IP address to a NIC scares me.


Eddy

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