From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jan 21 18:01:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id SAA02710 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 18:01:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id SAA02704 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 18:01:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA20637; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 18:45:48 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199701220145.SAA20637@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Kernel driver source installer? To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 18:45:48 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199701220111.LAA10407@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from "Michael Smith" at Jan 22, 97 11:41:44 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Uh, why should you have to reboot? The act of placing the driver object > > in the directory should place it in your kernel... > > I'm assuming ISA isn't going to evaporate overnight. Probing for ISA > devices on a running system is akin to pissing on an electric fence. I'm assuming someone will hire G. Gordon Liddy to shoot it in the head one dark night (well, a person can dream). ISA devices on non-PnP machines won't come online until after you rebbot, I suppose. For PnP machines, the resources will be allocated by the BIOS, even if there isn't a driver to run them, and that can be discovered with a more-PnP-than-ISA-probe(). If you want to abvoid rebooting, then don't buy ISA hardware. If you don't care, feel free to buy ISA hardware. > > > But while I'm thinking and trying to work in that direction, it's > > > nowhere near reality, and that's what I have to deal with at the moment, > > > hence a script that reflects reality rather than some unrealised ideal. > > > > If you keep making these things easy without a real soloution, > > where is the "squeaky wheel" incentive for a real soloution? 8-) 8-). > > I thought your position was self-evident? Heh. Depends on whether it's the users or the engineers who are in charge, I suppose. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.