From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 19 15:29:08 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 22CC2D10 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 15:29:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yk0-x22c.google.com (mail-yk0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c07::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C8024359 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 15:29:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yk0-f172.google.com with SMTP id 131so4344241ykp.3 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 07:29:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=seibercom.net; s=google; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:disposition-notification-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=TI78TpJVqEpjJPw3Nyk+kvZZ5GLm2yTLxsOnrqCCdY0=; b=qdanTgrlHNV+B2ohsazc1tDwA+hD3r0O6Jc5afwZNSNvKKwD/zty52fS6aiJ+fYLWX UWOEx07b3FdSOEICoYrvWPy8CACsc8M4zIiIaC52LV6aiHEzOx9MoXmAUGrWYCs+hfPy rKekMTI80Fgf+Js8oq6RZSx8zU93SBj/xH65I= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:reply-to:organization:disposition-notification-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=TI78TpJVqEpjJPw3Nyk+kvZZ5GLm2yTLxsOnrqCCdY0=; b=MiGu+NAB5mhgSq918lJAqnqirGDSXnOjZ+4yNJbXtj4oQ0QZq+i0ao111ne6I6ZJbm yBl54ZLOU1pPFEjcRWXxwz5yHlA/ZsZWHokxdJiQoFad9NZNnsdB04K9KM7isDiPSVt5 EsWijLtSjr3R6ba/8FQttsh4kP/3pVxILsib6HaIqIb/ufXd/lBdvIJi74jlnMHXleTd 5BJ9vHEuod7f45bq6bLi7M1iLSoKfvWHaMXex0as65Q/GFLH9TXT5D9BxnxUA/QqR9/E IGk4ilJIAQOAO9yVZ+rpOGLRIQxYWz0HxSPfL9JV9ULaCuvgnp+TEKzZnRUSuh3mIrHr gs+g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlunwNICQkZfwGVmxY4/sDLrjBR0ba+vzjky8d8cMDpQOFtN5IomHJK2jPZ/ksPCmbBUJBH X-Received: by 10.236.189.143 with SMTP id c15mr3188334yhn.101.1424359746748; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 07:29:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id c41sm19047736yhc.53.2015.02.19.07.29.05 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 19 Feb 2015 07:29:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 10:29:05 -0500 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's in my hard drive? How can I get rid of it? Message-ID: <20150219102905.10e127b2@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: <54E39F83.70002@gmail.com> <20150218173047.GA53030@slackbox.erewhon.home> <20150218184227.GC26575@neutralgood.org> <20150219132221.b5d14e68.freebsd@edvax.de> <20150219081839.1a4c0359@scorpio> <20150219150612.88c2b0d0.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.11.1 (GTK+ 2.24.25; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 15:29:08 -0000 On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 08:29:06 -0600, Andrew Gould stated: > Having been a juror for a murder trial (in the US), I was pleasantly > surprised by the efforts made by the court to give jurors good and clear > instructions about the consideration of evidence. I was also pleased, > during deliberations, that my fellow jurors used those instructions to keep > the discussion of evidence within its proper boundaries. My experience may > not have been the norm; but it certainly wasn't like anything I've seen in > the movies. One of the best explanations I have ever heard regarding justice vs. law was given by a college law professor.He stated that if our legal system was really about justice and not law then there would be no such thing as the "Exclusionary rule" . Prosecutors keep their jobs by convicting people. Police detectives advance by closing cases. Rarely, if ever, is the innocents or guilt of the individual ever questioned. I was involved in a case in the early 80's where an individual I knew personally was convicted of an armed burglary and sentenced to 10 years. He had a record of drug abuse charges and was an easy target for the police. I knew he was innocent because he was with me at the time of the crime. Explaining the case here would take way to much time; however, suffice to say the police blackmailed the only other witness who could state where the supposed perpetrator was with the full and complete support of the DA's office. --- Jerry