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Date:      Wed, 7 Jun 2000 12:57:01 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Pat Lynch <lynch@bsdunix.net>
To:        James Howard <howardjp@wam.umd.edu>
Cc:        freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Response to ZDNet's anti-BSD Story
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.05.10006071255580.400-100000@bytor.rush.net>
In-Reply-To: <200006070415.AAA05828@rac5.wam.umd.edu>

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you also might want to mention that M$ vs. Slashdot is not about licensing
legalities. its about censoring our users

-Trish (BSD-Pat, BSD-Trish)

andover.net

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On Wed, 7 Jun 2000, James Howard wrote:

> Okay, so I prepared a response to ZDNet's BSD bashing.  I intend to submit
> it to OSOpinion sometime tomorrow.  I decided to send it to the mailing
> list first to solicit suggestions and recomendations on it.  So, without
> further ado, here it is, enjoy.
> 
> Jamie
> 
> 
> 
> Kerberos and the GPL
> 
> James Howard
> 
> On Tuesday, June 6, Evan Leibovitch wrote
> (http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/comment/0,5859,2582875,00.html)
> about Microsoft's wrangling of the Kerberos protocol. Microsoft had
> taken the open source MIT software, made changes affecting compatibility,
> and released the new version without the source code. The Kerberos
> code is licensed under a license similar to both the BSD operating
> system and the X11 Windowing system.
> 
> Leibovitch blames the license for allowing Microsoft to introduce proprietary
> extensions into the protocol and claims that if Kerberos had been
> licensed under the Free Software Foundation's General Public License
> (GPL) Microsoft would have been unable to embrace and extend the Kerberos
> standard. However, Leibovitch does not get it. This was the best possible
> outcome and it was forced by the liberal license.
> 
> There are three paths this project could have taken:
> 
> * First, Microsoft could have ignored Kerberos completely and left
>   the broader community with an entirely new standard with zero support
>   from other software in the community. 
> 
> * Second, the Kerberos code could have been released under the GPL.
>   If this had happened, the Microsoft would have surely refused to
>   use the code to prevent having to reveal proprietary source. Microsoft
>   would have then reimplemented the code and still modified the protocol.
>   Had Microsoft been forced to reimplement the code, it would surely
>   contain an unknown number of bugs and compatibility issues.
> 
> * First, the Kerberos code could have been released under a Berkeley-style
>   license. Microsoft could have then taken the code and distributed
>   a modified version and maintained some level of compatibility with
>   existing implementations and installations of Kerberos. This is,
>   in fact, what happened and by far the best possible outcome of this
>   scenario.
> 
> As can be clearly seen, the liberal licensing of the Kerberos code
> permitted and encouraged a potentially nightmare scenario in software
> development to become a smaller and containable issue. Further, as
> we can see, other licensing of the software would have only made the
> situation worse and forced increased headaches and problems upon systems
> administrators and implementors.
> 
> 
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