From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 19 03:07:33 2014 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6AEEBA18; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 03:07:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail1.bur200.uecomm.net.au (mail1.bur200.uecomm.net.au [218.185.0.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DD6FD22; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 03:07:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.flexibledrive.com.au (unknown [115.186.196.106]) by mail1.bur200.uecomm.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BE89D400; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 14:07:28 +1100 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.flexibledrive.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8BA3E6C0D; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 14:07:27 +1100 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at fdrive.com.au Received: from mail.flexibledrive.com.au ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.flexibledrive.com.au [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id J42y4+f5yYhY; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 14:07:19 +1100 (EST) Received: from ws-pross.vv.fda (ws-pross.vv.fda [192.168.50.199]) by mail.flexibledrive.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 64597E623B; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 14:07:19 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 14:07:18 +1100 (AEDT) From: Peter Ross <Peter.Ross@alumni.tu-berlin.de> X-X-Sender: petros@linux-vic-05.vv.fda To: Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: RFC: Enabling VIMAGE in GENERIC Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.11.1411191400490.4767@linux-vic-05.vv.fda> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (LRH 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD <freebsd-net.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-net>, <mailto:freebsd-net-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-net/> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-net@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-net-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net>, <mailto:freebsd-net-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 03:07:33 -0000 On Sun, 16 Nov 2014, Craig Rodrigues wrote: > (4) Not everyone uses bhyve. FreeBSD jails are an excellent virtualization > platform for FreeBSD. Jails are still very popular and > performant. VIMAGE makes jails even better by allowing per-jail > network stacks. I am using jails and VIMAGE for ca. 4 years, btw. On the other side of the fence (see Linux) containers became quite popular with Docker and are also used for process management and separation (systemd e.g.) Just to add this as a motivation for using jails and possibly VIMAGE, from a sysadmin perspective. Regards Peter