From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 16 16:14:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5EBD106564A for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 16:14:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 897598FC45 for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 16:14:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-1-225.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.1.225]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D21E1DF34; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 18:14:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n7GGETUU002533; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 18:14:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 18:14:29 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Charles Oppermann" Message-Id: <20090816181429.7a2d4e73.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <003601ca1e89$deda1ef0$9c8e5cd0$@com> References: <980215.56754.qm@web58307.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <20090812130546.GA3672@marge.bs.l> <4A82C3DD.7040209@ibctech.ca> <002701ca1b59$b3e132c0$1ba39840$@com> <20090813040701.34245f03.freebsd@edvax.de> <003601ca1e89$deda1ef0$9c8e5cd0$@com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 'Steve Bertrand' , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 16:14:33 -0000 On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 11:54:41 -0400, "Charles Oppermann" wrote: > I get the humor, but based on this and your previous remarks regarding > Windows, you're not an authority on Windows or its users - average or > otherwise. I may apologize for that not being the case, sadly, at least according to the last point, but it's very selective to Germany. I can't tell if "Windows" users in other countries behave in other ways. In my family and for friends, I'm often the "computer guy" and have to deal with their problems, which are usually related to "Windows" in many different ways. But still, my observations are quite individual, so I don't talk for "everybody". > It does FreeBSD a disservice when its supporters slam other platforms and > implicitly (and explicitly on occasion) denigrate users of such. This may be, I agree, but hey, at least I didn't start! :-) > > > Since Windows 2000, the > > > Setup program allows for deletion of partitions, creating one or more > > > new partitions, formatting them, etc. > > > > Even DOS could do that. > > That is correct. However, in an earlier message you wrote: > > >"Usually, any MICROS~1 operating system attempts to completely wipe the > disk it wants to install on," > > That might give the impression that the Setup procedure was inflexible. In DOS, deleting partitions involves reading the screen (in textmode) and pressing keys (on the keyboard); in "Windows" setups, those tasks can usually be achieved by repeatedly pressing the Enter key. There is a default action that usually leads to destruction of any other OS, or at least of the start sectors of the disk so other operating systems can't be booted anymore because the boot manager is gone. This is quite different to installer of other operating systems that require some knowledge about what to do, and the person who does the install is responsible for taking decisions. The "Windows" installer, however, replaces them by (for "Windows") reasonable defaults, and that is to free the way for "Windows" by all neccessary means. > I assume your use of "MICROS~1" is some sort of clever dig at Microsoft, but > this is 2009 - not 1995 - and for the "average Windows user" it's > meaningless and confusing. Meaningless? Sure. Confusing? Surely not more than "Windows" itself. And finally, "MICROS~1" is an invention by Microsoft. So simply take it as a very individual nuance of expression by the means of the language. I know it's a VERY special kind of humour, and of course not everyone's case. :-) > For those who do understand it, they know having > 8dot3 filenames was a FEATURE, a benefit of the platform to allow > applications that weren't aware of long file names to continue working. GeoWorks Ensemble had >8.3 filenames even in DOS. > Just my thoughts, > -Chuck Confirmed. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...